Non-Compliant

I was just pissed off this morning. My first patient was a twelve-year old boy whom I've seen a month ago. His mother brought him back because she said the medicine I prescribed didn't work.

Upon further inquiry, I found out that he hasn't been using the medication at all. The mother said "He doesn't like it, so he stopped."

How can she say that the med doesn't work when her son doesn't even take the medicine? Crazy bastard.

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"The greatest thing you'll ever learn is just to love and be loved in return." -- Toulouse-Lautre, Moulin Rouge

wow, crazy people,

Just an FYI for all people that do taht, if it tastes horrible, take it! it is less pain than sticking with a medical condition :/

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Heh, that's pretty stupid yeah...

I actually expected something else from this thread, and it made me
think about what a friend of mine said yesterday. He has leukemia and
had his first cure some weeks ago. He doesn't like doctors too much
either, but that's because a doctor means something is happening and it
stresses him. They're too concise.

Now I can understand a doctor in such department needs to be concise as
a lot happens there and these are no light diseases, so luckily the
nurses are more personal.

Hmm, just what this thread title made me think about...

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Create-ivity - a game development blog

Not all doctors are curt and impersonal. I've been visiting a
terrific ENT. He's like 70, but he seems so young and within
minutes of meeting this guy you get the feeling that you can trust him
to take care of anything. He's very warm and just exudes a
feeling of capability.

Addicted to Morphine said:
Not all doctors are curt and impersonal. I've been visiting a terrific ENT. He's like 70, but he seems so young and within minutes of meeting this guy you get the feeling that you can trust him to take care of anything. He's very warm and just exudes a feeling of capability.

everyone loves to have a doctor that they can trust. isn't this one of the most friendly looking docs that you've ever seen. almost reminds you of that old frayed teddy bear that you never had as a child......

http://www.rfi.fr/images/imagesActu/grande_bretagne/shipman220.jpg

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i eat paint

My doctor's an ex-military medic with a heart of gold, known him literally all my life, blah blah blah.

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One day you'll know what you're talking about, I can hardly imagine

Maps! - Audio blog!

Aaah Harold. :biggrin:

(I nearly choked on a cup of tea when I read that post fishy)

Yeah, for a patient it's best to have a doctor that is personal and
trustable. From a doctors point of view, I think it can be hard to be
that when sometimes patiens die. I admire those that can be personal,
it sounds like a hard job to me.

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For those of you (like me) who didn't recognize Harold Shipman :
http://www.crimelibrary.com/serial_killers/notorious/shipman/dead_1.html

I wondered why my head was screaming "EVILLL!!!" lol, my doctor is a nice guy, i dont see much of him though, mainly because i dont need to. :biggrin:

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Well... I really dont understand people who works like that. How can
she even say that the medicine doesnt work if the boy had'nt taken it?

I mean.... Is there a logical explanation for this behaviour? I sure as hell can't find one.

Satchmo, did you ask how the hell she could say it didnt work?

my dad gets similar complaints as a vet, but i think the 2 in the morning calls piss him off more

I didn't state the obvious, because I think the parent would consider that insulting. Instead, I said that the medication doesn't work unless he takes it every day. She can figure out what I was trying to say.

I consider myself a personable doctor. I think most pediatricians are quite friendly, compared to other specialties. I play with my patients, I keep up with the latest cartoons, and I chat about video games with my teenage patients. It's amazing how fast they open up once I start discussing Halo or Counter-Strike. :smile:

I think it's possible to be warm and cuddly and professional at the same time.

P.S. One of my patients said something very funny this morning. He's a three year old who said that he's got puppies in his tummy. I think he's trying to say that he's got cramps, but I almost burst out laughing when he said that.

Man, I love my job.

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"The greatest thing you'll ever learn is just to love and be loved in return." -- Toulouse-Lautre, Moulin Rouge

Well, good for you Satchmo, that you have a good job and so on, i dont
even know what the hell in going to do when i finnish school ^_^.users.php?name=satchmo

shame we dont have all that many pleasant doctors in this country. I
got a call this morning that my grandad is suffering with pneumonia
& his sons&daughters have been asked to go to him immediately
today, I fear the worst.

Even worse than that, I no longer live in london so I havent got a
chance of seeing him at his possible last hours. I never actually met
him in person, which I am ashamed about tbh, he would always send me
postcards about his RAF days.

Funny how life can deal you a s**tty hand all of a sudden, if anyone
else has refrained from meeting grandparents, do it now tbh.

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My Pit

My doctor is nice :smile:

woo!

That reminds me. I was in car crash with 2 buddies of mine (as in we
were parked on the sidewalk and another car lost control and slammed in
our side at a speed of about 50km/h). "Fortunately" we only ended-up
with bruises. And so did the responsible driver...initially (he was
later introduced to my bud's army-shovel). I, however, who had been
standing closest to the battered side, had a deep and fairly long cut
on my left arm that was bleeding all over the place. I rushed to a
nearby hospital and went straight to the emergency desk. The nurse
there was busy reading some "important" papers (bills, as far as I
could tell). I told her I had an emergency and pointed at my arm.
Without even raising her head, the b*tch told me to
wait a moment. So I did, and when that moment was
over I threw my arm in spite of the pain on her papers,
splattering them with blood, and informed her that if she didn't do
something soon, I would find myself forced to break my healthy arm fisting her to death. God
I hate nurses. Anyway, she took me a dermatologist while constantly
bitching about irresponsible people getting hurt. The doctor was OK,
though. He later told me that the nurse I just met was, indeed, a b*tch.

What about the other end of the spectrum Doctor?

Whatever happened to paying for services rendered?

I went to the doctor recently. She poked, prodded, caused me intense pain and said "There is nothing I can do until it gets worse"

I went home and took care of the problem myself.

I received a bill last week. $500.00 bucks.

This is the main reason why so many people do not go to any doctors when they need to any longer. Almost everyone I know refuses because they are sure the doctor will charge them even if nothing at all is accomplished.

Doctors have a bad reputation but mostly its self imposed.

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There is no history until something happens, then there is.

i went to the hospital last week to have a biopsy done on a lump on my nipple. there were two types of sample taken. the first was with no anasthetic, as it gives cleaner results or something.

the procedure involved a 5cm needle being inserted to its full deapth, entering at the side of the nipple, and going all the way under to its center. then it was wiggled around quite a lot. not just a little. i was actually surprise my nipple didn't fall off. then i burst out laughing. a strange thing to do, no doubt, but richard harris getting hung by his nipples in the film 'a man called horse' was all i could think about. it was too sureal, just lying there getting some nipple torture from this really hot woman. i managed to say 'a man called horse' before descending into laughter again, and the student in the room burst out laughing too. the hot doc chic had to have it explained. she said that i was the only person she had ever seen laughing while getting this done to them. not surprising, really.

i don't know if i'd have been as merry if it was a wrinkly old male doc that was doing it, and that makes me wonder. it's not that i found it 'fun' in any way that i'd like to repeat, but it was fun to have her do it, if it needed done, sort of thing.

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i eat paint

I'll bet you found that semi-erotic, like BDSM, didn't you :razz: .

Ooo, kinky stuff here.

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"The greatest thing you'll ever learn is just to love and be loved in return." -- Toulouse-Lautre, Moulin Rouge

My doctor has a very funny name, at least in Dutch.

She's called M. Kutten.

That's dutch for the plural form of female genitalia. (this
thing

• warning, possible obscene drawing)

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:: Forceflow.be :: Nuclear Dawn developer

My father is a doctor, and he faces these kind of people Every Day !!

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.::Dark|Masta::. - One name. One legend.

I repair computers, occasionally.

It's pretty much the same here. They are wondering why the machine
breakes down. They never did download something suspicious from the net.

Of course they didn't. How could they.

And they are using anti virus software I haven't even heard of.

Sometimes I ask myself how it is possible to cause such a damage they
just caused. Got two PCs right here. And at least one of them need a
HD-check with another host computer. Because this one can't boot by its
own.

I shake my head.

Nevertheless. I admire your patience you have to show up.

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Forceflow said:
(- warning, possible obscene drawing)

LOL, if they need to see the drawing, they are to young. If they want to see the drawing, they are..... Ok in my book.

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There is no history until something happens, then there is.

One of the patients mother just commended me on my bedside manner. I feel pretty good right now.

The strange thing is that almost all the black patients/parents love me. I don't know why.

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"The greatest thing you'll ever learn is just to love and be loved in return." -- Toulouse-Lautre, Moulin Rouge

It's 'cause I put in a good word for you with my posse and they're like A'ight.

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Maps! - Audio blog!

There's a Dr. Pain in my office. What a tragic name for a doctor.

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"The greatest thing you'll ever learn is just to love and be loved in return." -- Toulouse-Lautre, Moulin Rouge

Like Crapceeper, I repair computers. People come to me and say "my monitor has a virus and my modem won't boot up without hard drive internet screen icons going 'BLOOP! BLOOP!'."

I look at them and say "Well, I'll take a look at it."

I get on the computer, and what's this!? "Cursormania!" and "InternetAdvanced search assisatnt toolbar" and about 100,000 other things. It's the gosh darn weatherbug!!!!!! I don;t know HOW this could happen, they're using Norton antivirus 2000!!

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I tried sniffing coke, but the ice cubes kept getting stuck in my nose.
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Heehee, I do'nt use any Antivirus, and I have no problems. I
hardly download anything offthe internet (on this computer :smile: ) and I
only Download stuff I'm sure about...

...like anything that shows up in my e-mail with a suspicious attatchment...

Woo. I just got a 'gig' designing a counties youth soccer site. (I GET TO DEFINE MY OWN WAGES MWAHAHAHAHA)

I plan on getting my own site up for computer building and troubleshooting. I'd do repair ... but ... face it: no one will pay a minimum of $50 shipping ... even if they'd rather go out, ask some guy at Best Buy what to do, and buy $200 software instead and still have the problem.

I love it when you get computers that are so FUBAR that they just can't boot ... even with recovery. It's just too messed up (granted the last time I tried that with someone's computer they had Win '98, so things are a little different and easier now) but I had to 'start over' on their computer, which they didn't mind, that didn't work either. Turned out, they NEVER, in the two years of owning the computer turned it off by shutting down. They always just ... hit the power button. I confronted them too and they were all, "No we didn't". I liked the part where I asked them for the drivers (remember this was before they were FREE online) and they gave me a blank stare. So, I explained they would be on discs that came with whatever hardware they bought,

Them: "Oh those? We threw them away"
Me: "Why?"
Them: "Because, they didn't seem important"
Me: "Didn't the instructions say 'keep in a safe place'?"
Them: "Yeah."

Or the always infamous:

Them: "My cup holder is broken"
Me: "That isn't a cup holder, that's the cd-rom drive"
Them: "Yeah, I know what it is, but it can hold cups too"
Me: "I don't think you understand"

Needless to say, I stopped repairing computers a few years ago. The people thought I didn't know what I was doing because I told them THEY broke the machine. People don't like hearing that ... however, if I had a suit on and they never saw the place of 'business' they'd probably swallow every word.

I hate people so much sometimes.

I didn't mean to thread jack or anything, this just seemed where the conversation had gone :smile:

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Blame it on Microsoft, God does.

Not really jacking, just a personal account. (GOD DAMNIT WEATHER BUG! lol)

My doctor is pretty cool. Its ironic because im acually going today
(its midnight so, yes today). Just need a physical to get on the high
school hockey team.

And as to the whole computer subject. Oh jesus. I'm known as the
computer nerd who knows how to fix it i guess. Ad I always have to fix
peoples s**t. Yet, like stated before, they always deny the fact they
did it to themselves. People think they are invincible with Norton....
NORTON DOESNT CATCH CRAP! Well maybe some stuff. Most viruses can be
easily avoided if your not such a dumbass,

My personal favorite virus: Random IMing on AIM virus

This one has been spreading around on AIM. Bassically, someone on your
buddy list IMs you (they dont but the virus on their computer does)
saying "OMG LOL CHECK ME OUT IN THIS COOL PICTURE! DO I LOOK COOL!?
HERES A LINK, www.website.com/lol/rofl/picture.exe

And i wonder, why would anyone every click something claiming to be a
picture, with the file tag EXE? It turns out most people who I ask (aka
5/6 of my buddy list) why the hell they didnt look at the URL and see
the EXE i get this reply "wtf is a URL?". I dont bother helping these
people anymore, the only people that dont have this virus on my buddy
list, are people that play CS, or are pretty close friends with me
(which means they read URLs before they click, otherwise i disown them
:smile: ).

Bassically the virus is installed when you PHYSICALLY DOWNLOAD THE 3.mb
PROGRAM. And your name randomly IMs people on your buddy list saying
OMG LOOK AT MY PICTURE. I still dont know why people dont realize its
no picture when its 3mb, and you have to download it, insted of viewing
it on a site.

/end hijack

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Nickelplate is my dad

I had people who turn on and off their computer by pulling the eletrical power plug.

And this is one of my favorites:

"What version of Windows are you running?"

"Uhh, I think it's Windows 97."

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"The greatest thing you'll ever learn is just to love and be loved in return." -- Toulouse-Lautre, Moulin Rouge

French Toast said:
Heehee, I do'nt use any Antivirus, and I have no problems. I hardly download anything offthe internet (on this computer :smile: ) and I only Download stuff I'm sure about...

...like anything that shows up in my e-mail with a suspicious attatchment...

See.. that's what I have been trying to tell Crono. I dont use antivirus or anything like that and I've never had a virus. He says bullcrap.

Well bollocks to you, mister "bullcrap-sayer!"

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I tried sniffing coke, but the ice cubes kept getting stuck in my nose.
http://www.dimebowl.com

Agreed, i found the best anti-virus is myself, i dont have many, if any at all. I know what im downloading.

can you get viruses like embeded in pictures? or just pictures in general? just wondering.

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Nickelplate is my dad

Yes, you can get viruses enbedded in pictures. (Not as common, because you'll notice the obscure size of the file)

You can get a virus by simply having an IP address logged in your ISP's server. (giving you an active connection)

You can get it by opening your browser ...

You can get one by having a chat program (especially MSN ... not being mean or anything, but they don't exactly stop viral threats on their network, they just release an update that counter acts it)

There's so many ways, and yes, Nickle, that is BS. :razz:

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Blame it on Microsoft, God does.

[quote]Chance & The Origin of Life
To give some idea of what exactly is involved in supposing that life could have emerged by random combination of chemicals in a primordial soup, let us imagine that this soup covered the entire surface of the earth to a depth of one mile. We shall divide this volume into tiny cubes measuring one angstrom unit on each side. (An angstrom unit is about the size of a single hydrogen atom.) Let's also assume that the soup is extremely concentrated, so that reactions are taking place within each of the cubes within the soup.

Now, in the expectation of obtaining the simplest possible self-reproducing organizm, let the reactions take place a billion times per second in each cube. And let's further assume that the reactions have been going on for 4.5 billion years, the estimated age of the earth.

Scientists Fred Hoyle and Chandra Wickramasinghe has estimated that the chance of obtaining the simplest self-reproducing system by random combination of molecules is at best somewhere in the neighborhood of 1 in 10 to the fortieth power attempts. But if out of extreme genorosity we reduce the required number of proteins from 2,000 to only 100, then the probability is still 1 in 10<SUP>2,000</SUP> [1 in 10 to the 2,000 power].

Now, if you add up all the possible attempted billion-per-second combinations in our hypothetical primordial soup, you wind up with only 10 to the 74th power throws of the chemical dice. that means the odds of getting the required self-producing system out of our soup would be 1 in 10<SUP>1926</SUP> [10 to the 1,926th power]. We wouldn't expect that to happen in the entire course of the earth's history!

Of course, a diehard gambler might say it's highly unlikely but it just could happen by chance. But this is a completely meaningless use of the word chance. In order for a statement about an event with a nonzero probability of happening to be meaningful, we would have to observe enough repetitions of the event to establish a statistical pattern. Only this would allow us to say, "This event has probability p of happening."

For example, we say that when we toss a coin there is one chance in two that it will turn up heads. This probability is established by examining the behavior of the coin over several hundred trials. Now, if you have an event with a probability of one in a million, it would take hundreds of millions of trials to establish this. And if the event has an estimated probability of 1 in 10<SUP>2,000</SUP>, you would need many times that number of trials. The basic point is this: What is meant by a probability of 1 in 10<SUP>2,000</SUP> is that a certain statistical pattern corresponding to this figure will be observed over the required vast number of trials. If there is no possibility of performing these trials (as is certainly the case here), then there is no meaning to saying an event happens with that very small probability. [/quote]

You beleive in evolution with such chances, but there is ABSOLUTELY NO WAY that I could have never gotten a virus? That's patently Ridiculous, old bean!!

Source(s):
http://www.gosai.com/science/life-by-chance.html

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I tried sniffing coke, but the ice cubes kept getting stuck in my nose.
http://www.dimebowl.com

That has nothing to do with Internet security. You're line of logic is ridiculously flawed.

A planet, if you didn't notice, isn't the same thing as a world wide computer network.

By the way, I never said evolution, or creation of life, was a "random collection of elements that just happen to be in the right place at the right time to create life" type deal.

There's a specific amount of water that is needed to make a planet inhabitable. Turns out, that and the distance the rock is away from a star is all that is really needed ... as long as both are suitable, life can happen over time. Terra-forming a planet, for example, would be easiest by slamming a commit into a planets surface to try to create enough water. Look it up, if you like. Algae wouldn't work, since it isn't efficient enough to produce a proper atmosphere. Might work on Mars ... but it's doubtful.

You can look at Venus and Mars for examples of how difference of water, or lack there of, can make or break life on a planet. Venus is almost identical to earth in every way, except the atmosphere, of course. Venus is/was too close to the sun for the Sulfur in the air to compact into limestone (I think it was limestone) it was just too hot. Since, it is too close to the sun, it never happened and a water based planet didn't happen. All the water, I believe, is above the atmosphere on the out-most layer, which is below freezing. This causes the planet to have immense pressure, it's something like 100 ATM (100 * Earth's Atmospheric pressure.) Which, also, adds to the planet's warmth. Too warm. The surface, not sure about the exact value, is hot enough to melt lead. In any case. The actual amount of elements on the planet, especially watter and sulfur, and things like that, are roughly the same as the amounts on Earth (Even the size of the planet is about the same). It was just hotter there. This of course, determines whether it can have life or not. It really comes down to: distance from the star and is there enough water?

That's all. The amount of time is irrelevant for this scope, of course.

Now. That has NOTHING to do with the chances of you getting a computer virus. You didn't weigh the number of viruses on the Internet compared to what servers have it and which ones you connect to (and what servers those servers connect to). But the Internet is so flooded with them. So, the probability that you'd get one is almost certain. ESPECIALLY, if you have no protection against them.

It's difficult to quantify because these numbers are pretty close to astronomic and almost unattainable.

Also, are you thinking of VIRUSES or SPYWARE? There is a difference.

As I said before, you usually don't know if you have a virus, since most don't do anything anyway. You've just never had a virus that impeded your computer using ability, which is why you make that ridiculous claim.

That or you're being pompous and ludicrously proud. Which is pointless, to say the least.

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Blame it on Microsoft, God does.

You're missing the point, chappy.

Here is the point i was making: there are millions more ways to combine proteins and aminos than there are way to combine and of the viruses with my computer. And yet you beleive the least likely of the two.

Just like there needs to be the EXACT right conditions to make life, there needs to be comparable conditions to get a virus.

First of all, you need to not be a noob. Now, that;s not saying that ONLY noobs get viruses, BUT it gets rid of a huge percentage of the viruses that it is possible to get.

Second of all, don't download anything you're not ABSOLUTELY sure is safe.

when you are a power-user like me, you dont HAVE things on your computer that you don;t know about. I can tell you every process that is running on my system right now without looking. I can tell you what is in just aobut every folder in my hard drive. I spend so much time on this machine that I know where things are in it better than i know what's in my house... THAT is how i never got a virus or spyware or adware. Because I don;t download EXE's and stuff like that unless it's something i KNOW is legit.

thanks to my dad, I've been doing crap with computer since i was 4. I know how they work, and I know how to not get viruses.

Don't get mad or anything. I'm not being over-proud. I'm just saying it takes a LOT less faith to beleive that I have never had a virus, than it takes to beleive in the primordial soup.

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I tried sniffing coke, but the ice cubes kept getting stuck in my nose.
http://www.dimebowl.com

I'm not mad.

It's pretty much the opposite though.

Just like there needs to be the EXACT right conditions to make life, there needs to be comparable conditions to get a virus.

I think you mean:

Just like there needs to be the EXACT right conditions to make life, there needs to be comparable conditions to not get a virus.

It has nothing to do with you being a power user ... or if you know every file you download. If you use Internet explorer, that is flawed, period. If you simply have an open connection on a computer you can get a virus. Easily, actually. IF YOU ACCEPT ANY TYPE OF INPUT EVER, you can get a virus, easily. Or worse, you can get an attack on your computer, which is to say, an actual person is on the other end. That's pretty easy too.

I'm telling you, as someone who's researched software engineering, computer security, who has years of experience in Internet development, and is getting a degree in computer science: you're fooling yourself.

I understand you have plenty of knowledge of computers and I'm not questioning that, but you're being an optimist about something that is no where near an optimistic state.

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Blame it on Microsoft, God does.

You can attribute it to luck or God or Darwin or my 1337 skillz, but I truly have nver had a virus, spyware, or adware, as of thit time right now. Sure, it may be optimistic to think that i never will, i mean, yeah i do backups and everything, I've just only had to USE said backups because I or a friend deleted something on accident.

I understand you've had lots of experience with internet stuff, so have I actually. If you go to the Wayback machine, and look up "scan.missouri.org" that is an ISP that my dad started and i had the priviledge of being able to learn how it all works. The modem pool and routers and all that crap were all in my basement. and even when I had a T1 line to my house, I still did not get a virus. First of all because everyone was win98 back then and we didnt have sasser and the like, second because I never downloaded anything but music and popular games, which at that time was perfectly safe.

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I tried sniffing coke, but the ice cubes kept getting stuck in my nose.
http://www.dimebowl.com

How can you possibly even know that you dont have a virus?

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"If you talk at all during this lesson, you have detention. Do you understand?"

• My yr11 Economics teacher

Housecall.

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I tried sniffing coke, but the ice cubes kept getting stuck in my nose.
http://www.dimebowl.com

No virus scanner can detect every virus. Particularly not a free one, which runs as an ActiveX applet through your web browser (which, by the way, is one big security hole).

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"If you talk at all during this lesson, you have detention. Do you understand?"

• My yr11 Economics teacher

he does now..