Naming Names

Naming Names

Re: Naming Names Posted by satchmo on Mon Nov 21st 2005 at 8:19pm
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When I first arrived in the United States from Taiwan, I found the idea of having two people sharing the same first name strange. In China/Taiwan, no two people have the same first name. Every person has an unique name chosen by his/her parents.

The I encountered the Latino culture, where Jose, Maria, Juan, Carlos are almost ubiquitous. And then there is the Vietnamese names. There seems to be no more than a dozen to chose from--Thuy, Huy, Nguyen, Mai. Lastly, the Arabic names have the smallest variation. Every other person is a Muhammhad.

Personally I would like my children to have unique names, but not too unique so that nobody knows how to spell them. I hate the idea of naming your son/duaghter after yourself. It's stealing their identify from them. I want them to be their own persons.

What would you name your kids? I have mine picked out already with my wife.
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Re: Naming Names Posted by ReNo on Mon Nov 21st 2005 at 8:55pm
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How unique are you talking here? I'm guessing you just mean that there
isn't the amount of repetition found elsewhere, as opposed to the
parents actually going on some sort of quest to check that their chosen
name is, indeed, unique, right? :biggrin:

I'd also like to give my children somewhat rare names, but not so
unique as to bring on ridicule. You all too often hear about utter
tripe names like "Del Monte" for god's sake - while you are certainly
going to have the only child named "Del Monte" on the block, product
placement does not belong on the birth register.

I have possible names picked out for pets, but I don't think I could
convince any woman to let me name our daughter after that
loveable little ninja from Final Fantasy VII :lol:
I'd certainly never
name a child after myself though I don't see anything wrong with naming
them after another relative or person. My middle name has been handed
down through my family for about 4 generations I believe. I would
almost certainly continue that tradition, unless a more pressing event
(or demand from the mother) caused me to reconsider.

It's Alexander, in case anybody was actually curious :smile:

What are the names you are thinking Satchmo, if you don't mind sharing?
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Re: Naming Names Posted by French Toast on Mon Nov 21st 2005 at 8:56pm
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Well, my parents thought the same. My name is Rainer, which you
realy don't hear much. It comes from Germany and means Natural
Leader. My brother and sister are Sanborn and Denver
respectively, and my mom and dad are penelope and erasmus
respectively. My opa is name Rudolph :smile:

It's a great conversation starter. Something interesting,
different and with a good meaning is what I'd suggest. What did
you choose for your kids?
Re: Naming Names Posted by Campaignjunkie on Mon Nov 21st 2005 at 9:08pm
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Realistically, I would name my kid after a Norse god; Odin, Freyr,
Heimdall, Loki, etc. Though ideally, I would want to give it an
embarassing, socially-stigmatizing name, like 'Potato' or something. :smile:
Re: Naming Names Posted by French Toast on Mon Nov 21st 2005 at 9:25pm
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I have a girl named Apple in my class.
Re: Naming Names Posted by satchmo on Mon Nov 21st 2005 at 9:39pm
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Gwnyth Paltrow's daughter is an "Apple" too.

Chinese names are pretty unique. The first name is made of two characters, but there could be one or three characters on occasions. Either of these characters is chosen from a potential 30,000 pool of characters. So the chance of ever running into another person with the same name as you is pretty slim. Here is a short lesson in Chinese characters, if you're curious.

For boys, we came up with Dylan and possibly Brandon, but Brandon is too common. We might end up with something else.

For girls, we've chosen Sydney and Ashley. I know they're pretty common still, but they're not the most common ones.

I wanted to name the sons Jerome or Jamal, but my wife thinks it's too ethnic, especially for a Chinese boy.

I like Jerome. It sounds very virile.

One of my friends is called Weasel. Seriously, that's her real name. And now she's a doctor, it's kinda funny.
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Re: Naming Names Posted by Crono on Mon Nov 21st 2005 at 9:58pm
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Why do people insist on putting a 'U' in 'Muhammhad' ? It makes no sense since it's pronounced "Mo-Ham-Ed", meaning, that's the closest spelling "Mohamed", how I spell my (middle). I can see using two 'm's in the middle, but past that ... why funk it up so much. I'll never understand that. (I means seriously, it sounds retarded-ly cracker to call an Arab guy "Moo-Hamm-Add". (Most people ... who speak Arabic ... pronounce "Hom - Ed".

And, by the way, there's a reason why Muslim's name their kids what they name them. The last name actually changed every so generations. You're suppose to name your kid Whatever, then the 1st middle name is the fathers name, 2nd middle name is the grandfather's name and the last name is the great grandfather's name. However, usually once they drop it they start over so the last name lasts a few generations.

Anyway, yeah, I don't like a lot of English names. (Common). You always try to find something unique and sounds nice ... it doesn't matter how unique a name is if it sounds like ass.

I like the name Ilona ... not sure if that's how you spell it, but it's pronounced (Ill-Lawn-Ah), girls name, hopefully.

Then again, there's a good way to choose girls name. Use non-manly boys names. I met this chick named Dale before. Very ambiguous. I'm sure they spelled it differently though.

I met this one dude his name was Elane or something, it's pronounced "A-Lawn" ... I was like, "That sounds retarded ... no wonder he's 46 and in my sophomore class" this was a couple years ago.

I would so name my kid Odin. I'd then instruct him to have two sons and name them Thor and Loki. And insure that Loki is a little bastard.
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Re: Naming Names Posted by French Toast on Mon Nov 21st 2005 at 10:49pm
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I like Sydney, go with that :smile:
Re: Naming Names Posted by satchmo on Mon Nov 21st 2005 at 11:32pm
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We like Sydney too. But it's also a gender-ambiguous name for some people. It's mostly a girl's name today.

I did propose to my wife in Australia, even though I did it in Melbourne.

I have a gender-ambiguous name myself, but it's not Pat. I like my name, even though others think I am a girl before meeting me.
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Re: Naming Names Posted by ReNo on Mon Nov 21st 2005 at 11:39pm
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Why won't you say it if you like it so much? :wink:
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Re: Naming Names Posted by G4MER on Mon Nov 21st 2005 at 11:45pm
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I have 3 kids..

Connor. ( meaning - high Desire )

Shannon. ( meaning - small one, wise one )

Christian. ( meaning - anoited )

Reno I too carry a middle name that was a last name of my great
grandfather, he had no sons, so it was passed down as a middle name to
preserve his name. I passed on to my oldest son Connor.

the name is Reed.. if your wondering.

I love my youngest sons name.. Christain Aleczander.

My mom spelled my first name with an extra e.. I used ot get points off
my paper work because teachers thought I was spelling it wrong. -
Jefferey.

naw I would never name my kid after me.. I feel the same as you guy so far.

My best friend from Scotland named one of his two girls Brooklyn. I also know a Dakota.. and a Sundee..

I knew from the start what each of my kids names were gonna be.
Re: Naming Names Posted by Myrk- on Mon Nov 21st 2005 at 11:54pm
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I'd always choose something that I myself would like to be called, but something interesting that reflects on me and whoever it may be wife. I've always thought of Phoebe being a wierd and cool name- not many people called that in the UK at all tbh.
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Re: Naming Names Posted by ReNo on Mon Nov 21st 2005 at 11:58pm
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My newest little cousin is called Liberty...which made all the rest of
the family kind of awkwardly smile and squirm when it was announced :biggrin:
Libby is a nice enough shortening, but Liberty just didn't sit quite
right with all that many folks. Even worse is the fact that the mother
hates people using shortened names - she's quick to correct anybody who
calls their eldest little girl Elizabeth anything but her full name,
and I'm sure it's the same with Libby.

...I mean Liberty :wink:
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Re: Naming Names Posted by Myrk- on Tue Nov 22nd 2005 at 12:10am
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Ew, liberty has such an american ring to it... hate to use something patriotic...
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Re: Naming Names Posted by fishy on Tue Nov 22nd 2005 at 12:10am
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i remember a news story from a few years ago, when a couple named their little girl 2la. i don't remember which one, but one of the parents said the name had come to them in a dream.
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Re: Naming Names Posted by Myrk- on Tue Nov 22nd 2005 at 12:12am
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I forsee barcode style names appearing in overpopulated areas in the future...
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Re: Naming Names Posted by Addicted to Morphine on Tue Nov 22nd 2005 at 12:22am
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I'd always choose something that I myself would like to be
called, but something interesting that reflects on me and whoever it
may be wife. I've always thought of Phoebe being a wierd and cool name-
not many people called that in the UK at all tbh.
Myrk-, every time I hear the name Phoebe I think of Holden's little sister in Catcher in the Rye.

And Rainer/Frenchy, your name is badass.

I don't know what I'd want to name my kids. It's not something
I've put much thought into, although a couple of times I've heard a
name I liked and tried to tuck it away in my mind for later, but of
course, I've forgotten them all.

Satchmo, in case you are interested I have a Chinese name. Bo
(2nd tone) Han (4th tone) Cheng (2nd tone). The meaning of which
I've almost completely forgotten. I know that Bo is a phonetic
shortening of my anglo surname, but the character means something,
which I've forgotten (maybe tree, or strength or something). Han
is the character for the Han people. Cheng, I think, is the
character for continuation, or legacy. My Chinese grandparents
gave me this name because even though I'm only half Chinese, I'm the
only male in the family that can carry on their bloodline. That
was a pretty crummy explanation, so I'll have to ask my gonggong and
popo about the accurate definitions.
Re: Naming Names Posted by Agent Smith on Tue Nov 22nd 2005 at 12:23am
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For girls, we've chosen Sydney and Ashley. I know they're pretty common still, but they're not the most common ones.

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Have you thought about naming your son Ashley. My name is Ashley and
apart from the occaisional 'but thats a girls name' it goes down fine.
It also shortens nicely to Ash. It comes highly recommended by me :smile: .

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Re: Naming Names Posted by Addicted to Morphine on Tue Nov 22nd 2005 at 12:26am
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There's a guy on my hall with the name Ashley. At first I thought
it was a little strange, but I call him Ash all the time, and Ash is a
pretty sweet nickname.

So yes, for a guy I think that's a good name. But for a girl... it seems too common. I'd vote for Sydney instead.
Re: Naming Names Posted by ReNo on Tue Nov 22nd 2005 at 1:24am
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Ashley and Sydney are the two main characters in Vagrant Story, so you
score bonus points :smile: Ash is a cool nickname too - potential nicknames
are definately something that should be considered when choosing a name
I reckon.
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Re: Naming Names Posted by satchmo on Tue Nov 22nd 2005 at 2:07am
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Bo (2nd tone) Han (4th tone) Cheng (2nd tone).
I know exactly which characters you're talking about.

My Chinese name is Li-Ming. The first character means strength, and the second character means brightness or intelligence. I like my Chinese name, and they're simple characters to write.

I hesitate to reveal my real name in English. If I do, I would lose my anonymity and I have to watch what I say in the forum in case my employer is reading it. I would hate to reign myself in for the discussions.
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Re: Naming Names Posted by Gaara on Tue Nov 22nd 2005 at 8:27am
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I probably couldn't name the kid Nanaki (or RED XIII for that matter), but if I have to pick a name really it would be Jack. Even though it may be and movies and stuff I've never met someone with that name ever before. Also I think its pretty funny that my friends name Hathikar is funny. Not becuase it's the "Englishenised" version of his name, but becuase his brothers names rhyme. Montikar and Sathikar and some others I forget.
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Re: Naming Names Posted by Nickelplate on Thu Nov 24th 2005 at 9:06am
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Well, I want to name my kids something that MEANS somthing cool.

I hate how everyone is naming thier kids the same thing:

Madison if its a girl

Hunter if its a boy

I also hate how people use "thier own spellings" of the names like there is a girl in the school i work at named "maddysyn" instead of "Madison." WTF?! Spell it right, and name them something good like "Phineas!"

[edit] Im gonna name my kid ".com" so dont any of you feckers steal it!
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Re: Naming Names Posted by BlisTer on Thu Nov 24th 2005 at 3:31pm
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i know ppl who named their 2 kids "gift of god" and "gift of god 2".

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Re: Naming Names Posted by French Toast on Fri Nov 25th 2005 at 12:22pm
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People are stupid. Don't let those people pick names for their kids, shoot them, and name them yourself.
Re: Naming Names Posted by Loco on Fri Nov 25th 2005 at 12:39pm
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David Bowie's child: Zowie Bowie
Frank Zappa's children: Dweezil and Moon Unit

'nuff said.
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Re: Naming Names Posted by Paladin[NL] on Fri Nov 25th 2005 at 1:28pm
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<span style="color: lightblue;">Nickel, plz name your kid Phineas and give him a spear for his birthday (you know what I mean)

I got to many names. Officialy I'm named after my grandfather, but then I also got a 'normal' name...Dutch habbit I guess.

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Re: Naming Names Posted by satchmo on Fri Nov 25th 2005 at 10:20pm
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I kinda like "Hunter".

We need to come up with four names in advance--two boys and two girls. We're planning to have two kids.

I'll send the name for my wife to pass or veto.
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Re: Naming Names Posted by Addicted to Morphine on Sun Nov 27th 2005 at 9:38pm
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Which celebrity named their kid "Pilot Inspector" again?

There was a whole VH1 special on stupid celebrity kid names.
Re: Naming Names Posted by azelito on Sun Nov 27th 2005 at 11:46pm
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Which celebrity named their kid "Pilot Inspector" again?
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Re: Naming Names Posted by Campaignjunkie on Mon Nov 28th 2005 at 12:35am
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Damn. Okay, I take back my vote. Phineas is the best name ever.
Re: Naming Names Posted by Underdog on Mon Nov 28th 2005 at 12:40am
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Children are the cruelest people on Earth. To stigmatize your child
with a name that other children will make fun of is horrible. Make no
mistake, other children will do it, even with common names, why give
them ammunition to traumatize your young one.

Anyway, speaking as a child who was branded with a name my parents thought was cute I feel its wrong.
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Re: Naming Names Posted by Addicted to Morphine on Mon Nov 28th 2005 at 12:50am
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Phineas makes me think of the book A Seperate Peace by John Knowles.

I think Phineas sounds a little too pretentious. It'd be kinda like naming your kids Franny and Zooey.

UD, your comment made me think about that Simpson's episode where Homer
is trying to find a name for his son that won't be easily made fun
of. He eventually settles on "Bart" after rhyming it with every
word but the obvious "fart."
Re: Naming Names Posted by Dr Brasso on Mon Nov 28th 2005 at 1:31am
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after having kids......heavyweight boxer george forman did it best...

george I, george II, george III, george IV....cant remember if he had a fifth....

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Re: Naming Names Posted by Adam Hawkins on Mon Nov 28th 2005 at 12:26pm
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If I had a son, i'd name him Jeremiah, and haven't a clue what to name a girl.

My cat is called Weezer though, so I can't help but feel that it wouldn't be a very good name that I come up with (I wanted to call the cat Frankenstein, but my sister wouldn't let me, and insisted on shortening it to Frankie. El Diablo was also out the window! Personally, I don't see the problem... :wink: ).
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Re: Naming Names Posted by French Toast on Mon Nov 28th 2005 at 12:50pm
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I named my snake El Diablo! It was this awesome like reddish colour, so it fit.
Re: Naming Names Posted by SpoolE on Mon Nov 28th 2005 at 1:10pm
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At our school in our grade their are 24 matthews and 16 jasons!!
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Re: Naming Names Posted by Bewbies on Mon Nov 28th 2005 at 7:39pm
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the middle name is also pretty important.. for the most part, it's just a middle initial, but it completes the name. i was actually thinking recently about what i'd name my kids when the time comes. dont laugh. this is probly what i'd name my first born:

boy - Mako (after the shark. 'blue lightening') Saul (meaning: called by god) Watson. Mako Saul Watson.

girl - Roxanne (you dont have to put up the red light) Ruby (after my grandmother) Watson. Roxanne Ruby Watson.
Re: Naming Names Posted by satchmo on Mon Nov 28th 2005 at 7:50pm
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The middle name is important, and that's why I've got it all worked out.

Dylan's middle name is going to be Zachary, so his initial would be D.Z. That just sounds so cool. He can even use it as his alias online, like DEEZEE.

I can just imagine it, his buddies calling him "Hey, whazup Deez!"
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Re: Naming Names Posted by Addicted to Morphine on Mon Nov 28th 2005 at 7:51pm
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Am I the only one who thinks of FF7 when I hear Mako?
Re: Naming Names Posted by Bewbies on Mon Nov 28th 2005 at 9:49pm
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strangely enough, i think thats why the mako shark always caught my ear, lol.

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dude satcho you're from la? i from glendale.. armenians around here use like 10 first names. ara, arineh, arpineh, arson, sergio..
Re: Naming Names Posted by Bewbies on Mon Nov 28th 2005 at 11:03pm
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oops doublepost.. of sorts..? wtf? something is seriously wrong with the pit today
Re: Naming Names Posted by French Toast on Tue Nov 29th 2005 at 12:09am
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Re: Naming Names Posted by ReNo on Tue Nov 29th 2005 at 12:22am
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Been like this for a few weeks now hasn't it? I've no idea what the problem is but at times it takes minutes to load a page :sad:
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Re: Naming Names Posted by Myrk- on Tue Nov 29th 2005 at 12:39am
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Yer I keep trying to tell Lep, but hes always away. Reno, email Lep and tell him of problems.
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Re: Naming Names Posted by French Toast on Tue Nov 29th 2005 at 1:29am
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Re: Naming Names Posted by wil5on on Tue Nov 29th 2005 at 2:32am
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Posted 2005-11-29 2:32am
wil5on
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1733 posts 570 snarkmarks Registered: Dec 12th 2003 Occupation: Mapper Location: Adelaide
Where is Lep, anyway? I seem to remember he left for exams or something, and that was months ago.
"If you talk at all during this lesson, you have detention. Do you understand?"
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Re: Naming Names Posted by satchmo on Tue Nov 29th 2005 at 9:29pm
satchmo
2077 posts
Posted 2005-11-29 9:29pm
satchmo
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2077 posts 1809 snarkmarks Registered: Nov 24th 2004 Occupation: pediatrician Location: Los Angeles, U.S.
dude satcho you're from la?
You're probably the closest mapper to me geographically. If I ever go up to your neighborhood, I might drop by.
"The greatest thing you'll ever learn is just to love and be loved in return." -- Toulouse-Lautre, Moulin Rouge
Re: Naming Names Posted by Gorbachev on Wed Nov 30th 2005 at 2:02am
Gorbachev
1569 posts
Posted 2005-11-30 2:02am
1569 posts 264 snarkmarks Registered: Dec 1st 2002 Location: Vancouver, BC, Canada
Maybe 1 in every 20 people I meet can get my name right, and I've seen some very creative spellings of it too.
Re: Naming Names Posted by G.Ballblue on Wed Nov 30th 2005 at 2:34am
G.Ballblue
1511 posts
Posted 2005-11-30 2:34am
1511 posts 211 snarkmarks Registered: May 16th 2004 Occupation: Student Location: A secret Nuclear Bunker on Mars
It appears that in my family line, names are based on our
religion. Since my family -- more specificly my mother's side --
are a long descent of Catholics. I happen to be one too, and my
father converted when he married my mother.

That said, it looks as though our family line names their children after a Saint's name. Mine being "Joseph".

Meh, but that doesn't mean much in my family -- every boy on my mother's side is named "Joe". :razz:
Breaking the laws of mapping since 2003 and doing a damn fine job at it