Well it's that time of the year again! The pre-show events are kicking off with some rather interesting info so far...

• The PS3 will be $500-600, as most people were expecting I think.

• Sony have ripped off the Wii's gyroscopic controller - didn't see that coming!

• Final Fantasy XIII news with 3 different games in the universe - the main version, "Versus" version (?!) and mobile phone version. Apparently very sci-fi and very action packed this time around.

Check out the normal game sites for more info (1up, gamespot, ign, etc...).

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Some other news, not from E3, but related. It seems Sony is having problems with successfully creating wafers for the Cell chips. Apparently, they've also been stingy on releasing APIs for PS3 to developers!

I'm glad DS Lite will be making its way across seas!

Did Sony really announce that they're featuring a gyroscopic control? LAME.

I'm really looking forward to seeing some game-play for the Wii (Not used to it yet). I saw some screens a month or so ago. I'm not sure how official, but if they were ... they'll have no problem competing graphically. While, I know the machine doesn't have the same number crunching power, they're very smart developers. Is pre-rendering such a bad thing if you can't tell, for example. (I've still never understood why that was abandoned. It makes no sense. Making the number of polys you have to render lower is always a good thing, if you can get away with it, do it!)

An exciting time.

Every year, though, I'm hoping there's some game that looks absolutley stunning will pop out of nowhere.

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• Sony have ripped off the Wii's gyroscopic controller - didn't see that coming!

i would have thought they had a patent ?

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Yeah, they have to do somethin different with it or something...

But I'm so glad they ditched those other ones they were proposing. They sucked balls.

But, yeah... incredibly boring not much too it presentation by Sony.

EDIT: Here's some about the controller: http://images.sexiest100.org/elishacuthbert,2.jpg

Apparently there's no vibration in it. That's lame.

Dude, the new PS3 controller is Elisha Cuthbert!? That's awesome! Now THAT is a good idea. I hope the buttons are where I think they are...

Edit:
maybe vibration will be released as an accessory?

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I get depressed reading these threads. There is either little or no excitement about new PC games, just those damned consoles.

I cannot help thinking that consoles are the gaming version of killboxes.

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Ah, E3 (drooling madly), I'm always depressed at this time of year beacause I can't go.

Anyways, it should be very interesting to see the news this year. Especially since Sony's PS3 will be so costly and yet their PS2 is so out dated, they won't beable to keep pumping out games co-operatively for the PS2 like Microsoft does for their X-Boxes.

Could this finally be the year Sony expects too much and nearly goes bankrupt? But seriously, Sony is too paranoid with the Wii and 360, and thus they're stucking the PS3 with everything; however, unlike Microsoft who can make up for the true price of an XBox with other Microsoft products. Imaging how much the 360 really costs, probably the same that Sony is proposing for the PS3.

Out of time, have finals todays, I'll continue latter. C-Ya

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The PS3 is likely to be vastly more expensive to produce. The 360 is using tech that is pretty much available anyway - the CPUs, drives, etc... are pretty standard, just FAST. The PS3 is using the entirely new tech "cell" processor, and using the new Blu-Ray drives that are apparently really very pricey. Sony are likely to be losing a lot more on their system than MS are with the 360.

The PS3 controller doesn't have all the features of the Wii controller, so it's not a complete rip off or anything. The Wii controller not only knows the movement of the controller in relation to itself (as the PS3 does), but also in relation to the TV and where it is being pointed. Those extra features give it a lot more potential.

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Well it's that time of the year again! The pre-show events are kicking off with some rather interesting info so far...

• The PS3 will be $500-600, as most people were expecting I think.

• Sony have ripped off the Wii's gyroscopic controller - didn't see that coming!

I never liked the Play Station, now I have two reasons more. Who's paying 600 dollars for a console anyway?

My favorite part sofar: when my boss got up at the playstation conference and played our game!!!! (Resistance: fall of man, which I am NOT working on btw.)

What I see is that ever since Microsoft came out with a console that rivaled the US console market hogging up sales, Sony has become paranoid in losing any control in the US market.? Look at the games available now, on the PS2; half are dumbed down puts of XBox games.

Like I said, Sony has become paranoid and thus are striving to create a console that is far Superior than anyother console entering the market. Thus, sony will be creating such a large technical gap between 3 and 2 that devs will be unable to co-operatively produce for both systems. High price range of the system will force many devs to think twice about using the PS3 medium, especially when developers could easily co-operativly produce for both the xbox and 360, for the cheap and high end market. Essentially, if Sony does not strive to create a cheaper version of the PS3, the console might have the chance of collapsing in the market.

It's just my opinion though.

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I take it since all the replies thus far are about consoles that PC gaming is a bust this year?

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You know, with my luck had I chosen to go with the console as my favored game delivery system, PC's would have taken the high road. :rolleyes:

I had consoles long before my 1st PC.

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The Spore Video (!!!)

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8372603330420559198&q=spore

Will Wright's next big thing. This game will give the games industry a much-needed kick in the ass in terms of innovative gamedesign. I'm so looking forward to this game. Watch the video and you'll see what I mean. Wow...

Here is what I want to see from E3 this year.

BioShock
Zelda: Twilight Princess
Crysis
Warhammer Online
MGS 4
WoW: Burning Crusades
Huxley
Resident Evil 5
Medal of Honor: Airbourne
Killzone 2
Unreal 3
UT 2007

Diablo 3

E3 proper hasn't really started yet Orph, so don't feel bad about the PC not getting any love. Its just the big companies with large portfolios really that give pre-expo press events - namely the console manufacturers and some of the larger publisher/developers (like Square Enix).

There will be plenty of PC gaming news from Wednesday onward, when the proper event begins.

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BioShock looks like it could be one of my next favourites, too. It's a sequel in a way to System Shock.

Anyway... Wow, just wow... :biggrin:

BioShock looks like it could be one of my next favourites, too. It's a sequel in a way to System Shock.

Anyway... Wow, just wow! :biggrin:

Take out the "http://BR" part of that link, it goes to a site to book airfare.

I'm glad to hear that there will be a nice chunk of 3rd party support for Wii when it hits shelves. Final Fantasy (CC2?) and a Dragon Quest will be amongst them.

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? quote:BioShock looks like it could be one of my next favourites, too. It's a sequel in a way to System Shock.

Anyway... Wow, just wow! :biggrin:

Take out the "http://BR" part of that link, it goes to a site to book airfare.

I'm glad to hear that there will be a nice chunk of 3rd party support for Wii when it hits shelves. Final Fantasy (CC2?) and a Dragon Quest will be amongst them.

I really don't know what's doing this :/

ReNo said:
There will be plenty of PC gaming news from Wednesday onward, when the proper event begins.

Thats a relief. I generally rely on you guys for most of my information and I was getting worried that only the consoles were going to be talked about.

I didn't know that the event proper hadn't begun as yet.

Snarkpit is my main source of news concerning game related subjects.

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New alliance race revealed (for WoW)...it kinda looks like a cat fo some sort...

They're revealed Tier 3 dungeon armor names...and 2 new legendary weapons...they look cool

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I'm waiting for the official word on the new Alliance race from Blizzard themselves, because the Gamespy article was kinda iffy.

Something I just read about the PS3 packages, is that the only difference is not the HDD size, but options on the machine. Basically, all the snazzy stuff Sony was talking about in regard to High-Def wont really be featured on the cheaper version. Things like: HDMI output, memory sticks, compact flash, and WiFi is not supported in the base ($499 USD, $499 EU) model.

And, the 32:9 output is gone too. (In general, I think)

The other thing I didn't know is that the controller's tilt sensing is ripped off from Nintendo, so to speak. Not from the Wii-Mote, but the Nun-Chuck. So, in good news, the nun-chuck analog add on, has tilt sensativity in addition to the fully 3d movement of the Wii remote controller.

There's some really awesome descriptions of things that can be done. A ten minute demo game of Metroid Prime 3 in description sounds awesome. The grapple is executed through the nun-chuck by thrusting forward (or down, not sure) and then hold down on the analog stick to pull yourself up. That = awesome.

Although, I will admit, MGS4 looks fantastic. But not quite worth the $600 + $60 price tag.

I'm sure I'll have a PS3 eventually ... when GameStop is selling them for $50 or something :smile:

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There is a Halo3 video floating around the internet from E3. I don;t see anything great in Halo3. Halo2 killed the halo series for me. I hated Halo2.

There is a Halo3 video floating around the internet from E3. I
don;t see anything great in Halo3. Halo2 killed the halo series for me.
I hated Halo2.

You ask -- and you shall recieve:

http://www.bungie.net/News/TopStory.aspx?link=Halo3Announcement

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Ya'll should check out G4, this is the only time of the year that that channel is actually good. All week long, they have three hour live episodes on the flour, although acouple were taped maybe a couple hours before hand. But anyways:

I'm loving Will Rights next incarnation of sims, "Spore". For some reason, that game is reminding me a little of Black and White. But the idea tht you play the game offline and connect to recieve other players worlds to essentually kick up the games diversity is probably what makes me want the game sooo badly. I would be surprised if future simulation games try to do the same thing.

MGS4 is probably the one game, so far, that is featuring the best cinematic, story driven cutscenes. I mean that trailor looked great. The idea that Snake, suffering from his disease, would comence his final mission, the ultimate end. It kind reminded me of the end of MGS3 when you found out The Boss was still on your side, but to cover up US involvement, she had to forcibly bring herself to Death by the hands of her greatest deciple. Anyway, Hideo nust have a long interest in western style spy movies, just a thought.

That new game from the makers of Farcry looks interesting too.

Anyway, can't wait till tomarrows show. (Ooohhh, how I wish I could be there in person. Maybe someday when my skills are hardened and I'm actually part of the industry.)

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Hey look an initial Light Gun shell design for Wii at Nintendo's Booth:



Also announced a Resident Evil and New Duck Hunt for Wii and probably the most iimpressive launch catalog for a console I've seen in my entire life.

If you haven't seen the Red Steel gameplay footage either, I suggest you check it out, it's pretty cool looking (for a console FPS) ... check IGN or something for videos.

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...image?

It's something I've noticed the SP does from time to time, right click and say view image or something. It'll load into your cache... blah blah blah.

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The Red Steel trailer was awesome, but I am a bit sceptical about its complete authenticity. I know its available to play at the show, and I've no doubt the trailer is fairly accurate, but a few things looked questionable to me. The biggest thing was the uber-smooth, uber-contextual animations. Maybe they just did a great job with it, but when the guy shoots a shotgun blast at somebody and they literally bend their body out of the way and smoothly run down the stairs, or shoots the handgun at the sword-wielding guy running at him at the end and he jumps away from the bullet perfectly, I was a bit doubtful. Also, the way that the player holds the sword up to the end guy's neck - I'm assuming that is a cutscene or else this game has the best interaction with NPCs I've ever come across.

I'm sure it's all in game and everything, I just feel it might have been spruced up a little with some hard-scripted stuff that won't happen during gameplay.

EDIT: Also meant to mention that that gun thing looks like crap, as does their more traditional controller. Seriously, it's like they've decided to revamp their old SNES stuff. Ergonomics out the window :sad: It's sad to see these things looking so...well...crap, when the new controller itself is so awesome.

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They put the buttons in the wrong spot. I'm used to Xbox.

This may be a dumb question so don't laugh. I ask in all seriousness.

Do they make consoles with peripherals like a mouse and keyboard?

My main complaint about consoles is they game pads. I have nightmares about Nintendo thumb. Believe it or not, I did play consoles once. The pain was excruciating.

I might consider them again if I could navigate with a keyboard and mouse interface.

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They are generally available, but not often well supported. I don't really know many games that offer keyboard and mouse support on the consoles. Maybe now that the consoles are typically using USB connections for the controllers they will support standard keyboards and mice, and it might see more developer support? I don't know to be honest, not something I've really concerned myself with as I oh so love control pads :wink:

Have you tried some of the newer control pads, such as the new Xbox 360 pad? They have come a long way in the past 10 years...

...even if that picture of the new Nintendo one suggests otherwise

EDIT: Oh god, I just watched the Dead Or Alive: Extreme 2 trailer. Oh...oh god...how shameless can Team Ninja get? I felt pervy enough buying the first one but this...this?! The bouncing...the dirty, dirty bouncing :biggrin:

http://xbox360.1up.com/do/gameOverview?cId=3150180

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Thankfully, my sons have more/less grown up and moved out. In any case, I prolly won't have to buy any more consoles.

If I ever buy another, it will be for my own use.

The last ones I bought was this past Xmas. I bought 2 game cubes and 2 X-boxes.

I wasn't very impressed with either controllers.

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TeeHee.... Walking through E3 today, I brushed shoulders with Gabe Newell... it was pretty surreal.

Things look pretty awesome. Lots of good looking games (but less booth-babes 'cry'). Oh, and first thing I saw walking in wasTony Hawk skating a halfpipe - f'in rad.

I'll give a full report of my impressions sometime soon - once I recover from this gamma-ray induced migrane.

Reno, the gun design is apparently not even close to final. Anyways, it's a shell, by no means manditory, keep that in mind.

Also, the sword play in Red Steel, as I understand it, is not real time the same way gun play is. It's like, do a specific motion to pull off a special move type deal. At least, that's how it was described. Also, I doubt that the guy was actually playing Red Steel at all. Best bet is that the screen is simulated with stock gameplay footage or something like that. And, I'm not sure what you mean by too smooth ... I know the game, like godfather, allows you to pinpoint certain bodie parts. If you've played GF, by the way, you'll see it's rather smooth ... at least in that aspect, don't mention the clunky controls regarding everything else. In any case we'll find out this year. (I also hear there is some physics processing going on. In the SMG gameplay it seems like there's some fabric physics and such ... so it isn't like it's impossible or anything, but we'll see)

I wouldn't really trust renders, to be honest. Most of them are mock ups done by fans anyway. And, seriously ... I'm sure Nintendo will release stuff in the same style that looks good. They always have.

Orph, the controllers are far more comfortable than they were with something like ... the NES. Even the SNES controller is leaps and bounds in comfort. I rarely have sore hands or thumbs from playing games for many hours. Anyway using a keyboard and mouse does more damage to your wrist, so.

But, yeah, you can usually buy keyboard and mice for a console. The PS2, for example, has USB ports and supports normal keyboard and mice (you need an HDD though)

The Xbox can surely be easily modified if there isn't a connector already.

It's just, if you're talking about the Wii ... really, for a lot of the games a keyboard and mouse would be less effective, if they deliver what they're showing, that is.

Also, just to note, Gears of War looks pretty awesome ... but it just looks like it should be on PC. The look controls look awkward and the entire thing looks like it was made for a kb-m layout ... but they're using a controller instead or something. Still a cool looking game :smile:

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I just started looking at some of the new Crysis stuff ...

DROOL!

Here's your PC game, Orph :smile: (I'm sure a new Age of Empires or Civilization or some crap like that is coming out too)

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Reno, my mistake, that render is real ... you can see the reflection in the picture I posted

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I just keep finding stuff.

http://revolution.ign.com/articles/707/707263p1.html

Says Havok physics engine is used by several Wii games

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Oh man, I would be sooo exhillerated if someone was to go oyut and create an fps remote that replaces the right joy with a roller mouse. Imagin how much easier console fps would be with evan a tiny roller mouse.

--By the way, Sony made the right choice with sticking to their classic controler design.

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Does anyone else here refuse to buy a console at launch? I can
see myself waiting until price cuts are made and a system emerges with
a clearly superior game library / future. That is if I buy any of
these things at all.

After buying a Saturn and a Dreamcast (on 9/9/99) I've kinda learned my lesson.

I don't understand how buying a console at launch or not effects the games that come out on it within its life span ...

I understand price drops, but there's multi-platform games and usually when a particular series is tied to a company you pretty much already know what to expect ...

Sega is an oddity, to be honest, since their stragity to sell consoles was few and far between (unless you're talking about Japan, which you'd be surprised to know the Saturn was very succesful)

and are you implying that the Saturn ... or Dreamcast doesn't have a heafty library of games that are good? I mean, half the Dreamcast games published became the core games of PS2, XBX, and GCN. (Almost the entire XBOX library of good games is built off of the Dreamcast)

Saturn being an expensive system ... or having a short lifespan in the US doesn't make Panzer Dragoon Azel, Dragon Force 2, or Burning Rangers any less awesome. :razz:

I know you have awesome games for Saturn ... and by the way, if you're pissed about being ripped off, sell some of those games, they're worth hundreds of dollars. You'll get twice the money back, at least.

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I'm quite content with 360 and doubt I'll wish I had a Wii.

I'm not even gonna put PS in there, it's gonna blow. Sony screwed up this time.

EDIT: Check out Wii's booth.

Wiimote... priceless :biggrin:

I'm just gonna buy them all eventually. Maybe not at launch, but probably not too long after either.

By saying Red Steel looked too smooth, I just meant that the characters are extraordinarily realistic in their movements. Games these days often don't even bother with flinch animations when a person gets shot, instead just "ragdolling" the corpse when they are killed, but this seems to have animations crawling out of every orafice :biggrin: If it's really like the trailer then awesome, I'm sold, but I've a feeling that playing the game will see the animations being a lot less smooth - transitions will be less seamless.

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ReNo said:
animations crawling out of every Orpheus :biggrin:

lol

I'm not too big on consoles, Coz i don't have a TV. and my parents dont want it hooked to thier big screen. Somethin' about "Polluting the TV with nintendo."

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Typical viewpoint :sad: Games are just a form of entertainment, equally as valid as books or films or any other. Like everything they should be used in moderation, but the ignorant view that "games are a waste of time" while other forms of entertainment have more worth is disgustingly dismissive and closed minded. I'm so glad my parents are open to it.

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Crono -- sure Saturn and Dreamcast had awesome games... but they had
very short lifespans compared to the other systems of their
generation. I just hated reading EGM and seeing the future
release titles for Dreamcast dwindling to nothing... while the PS2
titles kept going strong.

Basically -- I don't want to buy a console that loses the console war
and gets pushed out of the market like the Saturn and Dreamcast did.

I preffer the Dreamcast to the Xbox and PS2 and its a real shame that SEGA arnt doing any more consoles, but on the up sade 2 cool games were realeased for the Dreamcast in March granted they only got released in Japan but they're lots of fun.

Oh and Brothers in Arms Hells Highway looks good.

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It even happened with the Gamecube this generation - with one or two exceptions, for the past year or two the only notable exclusives have been first-party titles, and the majority of cross platform titles don't make it to the system either. Not as bad a situation as the Dreamcast, but still not great.

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http://www.e3buzz.com/

that site seems to consolidate all E3 headlines from across the internet onto one page.

Crono -- sure Saturn and Dreamcast had awesome games... but they had
very short lifespans compared to the other systems of their
generation. I just hated reading EGM and seeing the future
release titles for Dreamcast dwindling to nothing... while the PS2
titles kept going strong.

Basically -- I don't want to buy a console that loses the console war
and gets pushed out of the market like the Saturn and Dreamcast did.

Is that because you want to be popular or something? :razz:

The only console (besides the Virtual Boy) Nintendo has put out that really let me down ... or made things not that fun was N64, for me. I thought that system was borderline terrible. It has good games, but they're few and far between. I didn't even want a GameCube because of it. But, I got one anyway (it was actually a gift) and I was pleasently surprised, every title I've boughten has been rather unique and has made for a very fun time (primarly exclusive stuff, of course)

I've ran into a lot of people who simply say those consoles suck ... yet they've never played ANYTHING on ANY of them. They'll say the GCN is a kiddy console, or the Saturn doesn't have ANY good games, or that the PS2 has insanely higher 3d abilities than the Dreamcast, or even that PS2 is the most powerful console outside of 360, all of those statements are pure bulls**t, of course.

I still play my Saturn, Dreamcast, and GameCube to this day. If I'm still playing consoles and games that are 5 to 10 years old ... I'd imagine that's longevity ... I don't know how else to look at it, I guess.

Although, keep in mind, my GameCube was a gift ... my Saturn cost $20, and I bought a Dreamcast when it was dying for $100. I can understand thinking you're going to get burned when you paid $345 or however much the Saturn cost and then it didn't last for even five years. I understand that, but I don't think something like that is going to happen this time around.

Xbox has a large enough fanbase and 360 has already sold enough copies to ensure a healthy life. Nintendo doesn't undersell hardware and really makes profit most of the time, so they're sticking around, the only person that's still a mystery is Sony. I really can't tell if people are going to go for a $600 system or not. Maybe they'll believe the same lies that were told about the PS2? Who knows? Maybe the most amazing game every created will come out for the PS3 a year after its launch and do for it what Final Fantasy VII did for the PSX.

Just wait and see.

Pretty much all I want is a DS, to play some of the awesome games that are out and coming out, a Wii, Crysis, and Gears of War to come out on PC ... that's it. I don't care about Halo or even Fable, I enjoyed fable a lot ... but ... whatever, not that great. I'd even be willing to skip Kojima's final chapter in Metal Gear Solid if the thing has a $660 price tag.

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There is a Halo3 video floating around the internet from E3. I don;t see anything great in Halo3. Halo2 killed the halo series for me. I hated Halo2.

I strongly agree. Very strongly.

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Halo 2 may not have been my favorite, but I enjoyed it and that trailer from a raw presentation standpoint gave me chills. I can't wait to see where they take the storyline with this one.

I feel like a terrible person for saying this, but Crysis absolutely bored me. The graphics are stunning, sure, but the gameplay video on the ship was a total yawnfest. I don't have high hopes for it at this point...

Finger, Resistance looks great even if you're not on it. Love the alternate timeline vibe - makes me think of Iron Strom, but cool. I'm assuming you're on the Ratchet title, then? You guys are one of the companies that's going to force me to get a PS3 sometime down the road... The other being Naughty Dog, and I love the Tomb Raider vibe they've got going on that new project and anything platformy they touch has to be gold. :smile:

Warhawk interested me for a while but I think it looks terrible with the new control scheme... the Sony conference video was the worst, the guy was flailing all over the place and the ship was just drunkenly all over the place. Otherwise the only other PS3 exclusive getting me hyped up right now is Assassin's Creed. Sounds pretty impressive.

Nintendo and Microsoft are the winners for me this year. I love the 360 and Microsoft is doing some amazing things with Live and their plans to start incorporating the PC even more - Orph, you'd have enjoyed that part of the presentation! :smile: Plus they're making some huge strides by getting GTA4 from day 1, and not dealing with a port later. Halo 3 is going to be massive, whether you like it or not, and I've been digging a lot of the games showing for the platform - Gears of War, Too Human (a little rough yet but I think it'll get there), Mass Effect, Dead Rising... and plenty of multi-platform releases that I'll take on the 360 over the PS3 any day (Brothers in Arms, Rainbow Six: Vegas, etc.). I've got a pile of 360 games already (13, more than interested me from the xbox or ps2 within the first few years of their releases) and plenty more coming!

And yeah, Nintendo just blew everyone away with the Rev... er, Wii. So much cool stuff to show out of that, and so many awesome looking games. Rumors are the thing will release at 199 or as low as 130 - 199 seems the sweet spot given their history, though. $199 + zelda, metroid, mario, and all that other craziness = instant buy for me this fall. I imagine I'll end up holding off on the PS3 until sometime next summer.

We've got a title there (but I'm not working on it), Marvel: Ultimate Alliance for 360, PS3, Wii, and current-gen stuff + PSP. It's the successor of sorts to the X-Men Legends games and looks a hell of a lot better on the 360 and PS3 than you would believe from the screens and trailer (which includes ps2/xbox footage). When it's at the correct camera angles, it blows me away every time I see it. :smile: It's no Gears of War or anything visually, but is coming together really well. And Blur's cinematics kick ass, as usual...

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I get depressed reading these threads. There is either little or no excitement about new PC games, just those damned consoles.

I agree with Orpheaus, I also find these whole media release shows/events very boring and depressing, I would only be excited if I actually own one, otherwise I dont find it interesting and thus loose all excitment over the ridiculas price tags. Wow, a new game or 2, I proberly will ever own it, nor even want it. Also, I have never understood what is with people and consoles...to me a console is just a primitive PC only capable of running games and have to be connected to a blurry TV. What is wrong with a good ol' PC? And I have found playing FPS's on consoles close to impossible. Also, there seems to be so many japansese fantasy s**t and similar stuff coming out. I hate fantasy, and I hate RPG's. I like realistic games, such as strategy games like C&C generals and Half-Life 2, BF2, BF1942 etc. I never like Warcraft 3 very much either. Also, Wii's controller to me look boxy, clunky and old fashioned. Why didnt they make it nice and curvy? And at least spend more than 2 minutes on the design.

And last but not least, how do you think I would buy one?

A: I dont have enough pocket money saved up to afford one (I would have to wait for years)

B: Last xmas I got a PC, and I doubt my dad would want to buy me a huge present for a long time.

I know with you Americans you guys are all rich and stuff so you can literally ask for one and it will be given to you on a silver platter, unfortuantly im middle-class thus you get my point. And no, im deferently not poor, if that is what you are thinking :wink: Im just medium.

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