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Pointing out the historical and moral reasons that seem to motivate islamic terrorism and justifying terrorist actions are two very different things. My point is that we have always known there was a sub-set of islamic fundimentalists who want america destroyed, so to be suprised by the fact seems pretty dumb.

As for sorrow for the american dead of 9/11... what for? I didn't know any of them. I don't know anyone who knew any of them! To me, a personal relationship is the only thing that can possibly justify an emotional reaction. Maybe that's just the way my mind works, but I cannot feel any sort of emotion for people I do not know. Expressions of sorrow for the faceless far-away dead have always rung false to me. If you're so sad about all the poor people who died 5 years ago, why not all the people who died in WWII, the spanish flu, the American civil war, every f**king soul that has perished violently since the dawn of human conciousness? Why aren't you crying all the time? I say it's bulls**t.

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Addicted to Morphine said:
I think I see what you're saying, but Islam and terrorism shouldn't be synonymous.

Gwil: what you rolling your eyes about?

Nickel, I respect you for having faith - and believe it or not, I
respect your patriotism too. You're not a stupid person by any measure
of the word, I just feel that sometimes, you make some pretty far
reaching and outlandish points to express an idea or a feeling.

Hell, we all do it don't we? It's just making them at inappropriate
times or with the gusto you muster sometimes seems a little...
misguided.

I was going to take up a few debates about your points regarding
America, but I know that ultimately the post a few above this wasn't
truly representative of your ideals.

Tracer Bullet said:
Pointing out the historical and moral reasons that seem to motivate islamic terrorism and justifying terrorist actions are two very different things. My point is that we have always known there was a sub-set of islamic fundimentalists who want america destroyed, so to be suprised by the fact seems pretty dumb.

Expressions of sorrow for the faceless far-away dead have always rung false to me. If you're so sad about all the poor people who died 5 years ago, why not all the people who died in WWII, the spanish flu, the American civil war, every f**king soul that has perished violently since the dawn of human conciousness? Why aren't you crying all the time? I say it's bulls**t.

I see what you mean, but the time at which you pointed the reasons out made it sound like you were excusing thier actions.

Of course we KNEW there was the potential for attacks, but that does not mean that we knew how, where, or on how large a scale the attacks were to be carried out. It's like knowing a sniper is aiming at you from SOMEWHERE, but you don't know exactly which way to run to effectively thwart him from shooting you. It's not a surprise that ti happened, but a surprise by definition, because you do not know when or where it was to happen.

I feel bad for everyone who has died violently in history. Not in such a manner that I actually FEEL something inside myself as I do when someone I KNOW dies. But rather in the sense that I acknowledge the sadness that others would feel. So, yes it IS a rather false-sounding empathy. However, the principle of the whole thing does cause me sorrow. It's not that I want revenge for the killing of 3000 americans, because even if it was 20 americans or 5, I would still take it as an attack on innocents, which is inexcuseable.
Gwil, I get it. :biggrin:

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