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Hey all, its me Half-dude, Now Im not a big CS fan but I know that alot of people are o here are some pics from an artical from PHL.

here's a pic showing the new amazing architecture and the pyhsics engine (you can see it still has some bugs)



And here's a picture showing the rag-doll physics



Here is the new flash bang effect where you keep the last image you saw transparent infront of the real time picture, COOL.



And heres a picture just showing what you'll see when you first join the game.



so I hope you like them, and thinks to PHL for the pics. :smile:

I downloaded the video of aztec...while I'm no longer a CS player (if a month or so really even counts.) But the possibilities for source make me very happy indeed.

THANK GOD. This better be good. And no more freakin 1024 - 768 crosshair. Gimme my 1600 one damnit!

I'll stick with my 1024x768 anyday. Even when I have increased hardware. Unless I was playing on a projector or something, but even then, they're only capable of 1024 so that's fine by me.

<DIV>Gah, they haven't fixed the grenade messages! Instead of just "Fire in the Hole!", which may be appropriate for HE nades, it'd be helpful to have more informative messages for your team - such as "Flash up!" or something. You should also have the ability to listen to your enemies talk over their radios if you're close enough to them. Brings a whole new meaning to hold your breath...</DIV>
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Looks very good, but I'm afraid my good 'ol GF4 MX will have some problems displaying all that graphical madness :smile:

Forceflow said:
Looks very good, but I'm afraid my good 'ol GF4 MX will have some problems displaying all that graphical madness :smile:

Ditto, but ill probably be getting a new graphics card in september / early oct

It's quite unfortunate that the Beta will most likely end by then.

I don't have cs:cz :razz:

And HL2 will be out by then anywayz.

Gorbachev said:
I'll stick with my 1024x768 anyday. Even when I have increased hardware. Unless I was playing on a projector or something, but even then, they're only capable of 1024 so that's fine by me.

No. Hang on. Have you played cs 1.5? There was a glitch in that game that the size of your cross hair changed with your resolution. Since I playedo 1600 all the time, I had a tiny tiny crosshair. You could still get the 1024 one, but you'd have to be on that res.

Looks great. I can't wait to start mapping for this. Larger maps = more fun.

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Meh. I find the new HL2 screens to be more interesting.



















http://www.planethalflife.com/features/articles/sigg04/

O I wanna wreck that train....

Wow, those look really awesome, quite a bit more impressive than most of the earlier screenshots!

Woa, HL2 can have that much in a map?! [ ponders on thought of proper full hogwarts map].

:biggrin:

The Hl2 screens are quite stunning :biggrin: !! but as for the CS:S it looks like HL to me.. to be honest. The architecture is very poor in CS:S. I hope we can expect more in the near future

$loth said:
Woa, HL2 can have that much in a map?! [ ponders on thought of proper full hogwarts map].

:biggrin:

You betcha. I'm not 100% sure on numbers, but an HL2 map is twice the size of a HL map.

Think of it like this in WC 3.3 terms:

In the top veiw, zoom 100% out. Notice how your "world" takes up 1/4 of that black box? Hl2 should take up then entire black space...

Maybe if CS: S has such giant mapping engine as well, I can actually build cs_forever... (thats the map that got delted via cordon bounds. :sad: )

Back to the ragdoll physics, I must say that after playing D³ and UT2004 I enjoyed UT's pysics more, no offence to D³'s, but ragdoll is the way to go..... hopefully HL2 will utilize that engine and put out a great game....

HL2 is looking sharp. I'm more pumped about it now that I've played D3...

G.Ballblue: A HL2 map is not twice the size of an HL map, it's sixteen times the size. Well, it could be. I doubt any map in HL2 is going to actually use all that space.

omegaslayer: D3 has ragdoll physics I believe. I guess it's not as obvious since most of the enemies dissolve mid-death.

Yak_Fighter said:
G.Ballblue: A HL2 map is not twice the size of an HL map, it's sixteen times the size. Well, it could be. I doubt any map in HL2 is going to actually use all that space.

If they did, then HL2 would probably consist of about 6 maps... :biggrin:

Yak_Fighter said:
omegaslayer: D3 has ragdoll physics I believe. I guess it's not as obvious since most of the enemies dissolve mid-death.

I thought id made their physics engine (here we go again...)?

they did. 'ragdoll' physics isn't a copyrighted name of a type of physics, it's just a description of how the physics is applied to things. anyone can make a game with ragdoll physics.

Ragdoll, just think of a doll being dropped, it flops, just like someone dying in a game with rag doll physics.

You betcha. I'm not 100% sure on numbers, but an HL2 map is twice the size of a HL map.

Boing

Doesn't mean it's a practicle or realistic size however.

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Is that meant to be a light house? Sorry but the mapper should be shot for that poor recreation lol.

64x overall volume of mapping possibility

HL1
HL²

? posted by Yak_Fighter

G.Ballblue: A HL2 map is not twice the size of an HL map, it's sixteen times the size. Well, it could be. I doubt any map in HL2 is going to actually use all that space.
If they did, then HL2 would probably consist of about 6 maps... :biggrin:

...but filling that space is stupid. You still have to keep reasonable load times in the game, you know, and with the massive texture resolution, model detail, and other support files needed it'd take 6 hours to load a map. :wink:

Myrk- said:


Is that meant to be a light house? Sorry but the mapper should be shot for that poor recreation lol.

LOL, I was thinking the exact same thing :biggrin: The "roof" seems to just be hovering and everything! Not that my flatshaded lighthouses are hugely realistic or anything, but given the setting I think I get away with it better than that mapper can :razz:

To be quite honest I am impressed with the lighthouse pic. It's perhaps the most realistic environment rendering I have ever seen. I imagine you simply can't see the glass wall holding up the roof from this size picture, but also imagine wandering around this virtual world with wind, swaying powerlines and foliage, ambient sound, and oh yah striders, and collective troopers!. Killer.

D3 is good but this had better be great!?!

half-life² takes place in the future. That is a levitating roof, common on most lighthouses of the period.

<--the smiley that no one dares use

Biological Component said:
<--the smiley that no one dares use

Heh. HL had crates. So what is HL2 gonna have...

Spherical crates that float, common of most crates in the future.

Nah, HL2 has barrels.

I wonder where he got that floating lighthouse thing... unless it's sarcasm, which I'm no good at picking up anyway =P

Hmm... It's probably not DONE. :biggrin:

Well, if you look close enough there is some glass supporting the roof. I must admit that the lighthouse does look odd now that I've looked at it, but then again I've never been to Eastern Europe or the fictional metropolis of City17, so I don't know how they build their lighthouses there. :razz:

Looks fine as a lighthouse in comparison with the West coast ones we see around here...(Valve is west-coast US so that's to be expected.) The glass is just far away and there's no glare to really show that it's there...but just look closely, and I'm sure it looks fine while you're playing and moving.

Side note:
CS Source looks pretty and all.
I want to see/play DOD Source!

Damn right, who cares about HL2, TF2 or CS:S, /me wants DOD:Source :biggrin:

Seriously, I'm looking forward to all of those things, but I REALLY want to see dod source. Its the only thing I want to see that they haven't released anything on, mostly because I doubt they're even half way done. I would also imagine those maps would be hard to redesign to be more intricate and bigger.

Even though I can't stand Normandy map (anymore, overlord was fun though), I'd like to see what that will be like ... drools

Im looking forward to TS2 wich will be on source, I mean, only the ragdolls makes it worth it and NS2 wich will be a stand alone game, possibly using the source engine. Now that would be lush.

CS: Assuming that's dust though I wish they had another map shown. I'm guessing (hoping) it's a WIP. I know dust is supposed to be simple, but cs is supposed to be realistic, and that doesn't really look realistic to me, given the engine.

HL: I'm gonna hafta remember to buckle my seatbelt before playing this game. I look at one picture and I can't imagine building all that stuff, let alone a whole map. Sure there is some minor problems like the telephone wires look pretty jagged (although there could be a few reasons for this), and of course the lighthouse is wierd, but I think the overall appearance they've achieved is very impressive.

flood control my arse!

did I mention I like brussel sprouts? No? Good, I'd be lying.

I quite like the DOD_Charlie actually, the allies have to use teamwork to complete the objectives (I know that seems like a shocker to those who play CS, since you've probably never seen teamwork :razz: ). I love playing as allies on that map, if nothing else as to be shouting at my teamates

"Are we defending this beach??"
"Umm.... No"
"THEN MOVE FORWARD!"

Assuming that the allies do work together, and complete the objectives in the right order, the map is heavily biased towards allies.

But yes... the other maps... Avalanche is gonna be fun on the new engine, Flash is just gonna be the same, but the one I'm really looking forward to is Caen :smile: That baby's gonna be fantastic on Source.

We are all aware that you can post over and over and over, every minute or so. Thank you for the demonstrations.

:mrT: Ah' break yo foo'ish haid!

You know what else would be nice? Forrest, if it didn't blow so much ass. Avalanch will look like Avalanch ... with proper lighting ... still a fun map ... maybe every building will be accessable.

It'd be nice if there were maps that had proper snipe points. (such as ones that hide you until you fire, they don't currently exists really.

JFry, dude, s**t only looks 'jagged' mostly because of the image quality/resolution and such. I'm sure its more like Far Cry, where the higher the resolution/more effects you can turn on, the more smooth everything looks.

A decent forest map would be cool, but it's very difficult to firstly pull off woodland, then to actually make it fun to play...

I think the background is more impressive than what you're lookin at :razz: Is that a sky or 8579437592874 units of map !?!?!?

Well, for those telephone wires to be smooth, that must mean a single unit is smaller than it is in HL1. So maybe the maps aren't 64x bigger, but only 8 times (2x on each axis), and units are half the size.