buttons activated through walls??

hi just wondering why my buttons can always be activated through walls, it might be a bit of a noob question but i cant seem to stop it from happening

:crash:

You can't. Buttons are more proximity sensative really -- if you have to "use" them, then the player can press a button through a wall, assuming he's close enough. Try setting the button so the player has to walk up and touch it. :smile:

the only way i know to stop this is by using spirit, im afraid.

If it's for single player, you could have a trigger_multiple on the side of the wall where the button is that enables the button only when the player is in it (by giving the button a master).

Make thicker walls.

if this is happening then you are either making the button incorrectly, the wall is way too thin, or both. Try downloading other button prefabs to see how it is correctly done and then apply that knowledge to your current situation.

Biological Component said:
Make thicker walls.

always worked for me :smile:

fishy said:

Biological Component said:
Make thicker walls.

always worked for me :smile:

Or simply keep the button off the opposing face of the wall that the player can "reach through". Whatever :razz:

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Biological Component said:
Make thicker walls.

always worked for me :smile:

Or simply keep the button off the opposing face of the wall that the player can "reach through". Whatever :razz:

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The problem isn't that the button is on the opposing face, its that the
player can get close enough to the button from the other side of the
wall to be within its useable radius. It happens even in some official
Valve maps like in boot_camp, where you can use the HEV machine in one
of the outermost buildings from the path around the outside of it.

ReNo said:

fishy said:

Biological Component said:
Make thicker walls.

always worked for me :smile:

Or simply keep the button off the opposing face of the wall that the player can "reach through". Whatever :razz:

The problem isn't that the button is on the opposing face, its that the player can get close enough to the button from the other side of the wall to be within its useable radius. It happens even in some official Valve maps like in boot_camp, where you can use the HEV machine in one of the outermost buildings from the path around the outside of it.

It also happens on like the 2nd map of "Questionable Ethics". You know the operating room with the choppy crushy things? Look slightly to the left of the door. Nice exploit er? :biggrin:

G.Ballblue said:

ReNo said:

fishy said:

Biological Component said:
Make thicker walls.

always worked for me :smile:

Or simply keep the button off the opposing face of the wall that the player can "reach through". Whatever :razz:

The problem isn't that the button is on the opposing face, its that the player can get close enough to the button from the other side of the wall to be within its useable radius. It happens even in some official Valve maps like in boot_camp, where you can use the HEV machine in one of the outermost buildings from the path around the outside of it.

It also happens on like the 2nd map of "Questionable Ethics". You know the operating room with the choppy crushy things? Look slightly to the left of the door. Nice exploit er? :biggrin:

Too many quotes aargh.... and oh yeah make thicker walls.

That works all over the game. Just watch the Halflife in 45 minutes vid. The guy activates the blast pit rocket from the other side of the glass

thanks

i will go make my walls thicker

:smile:

its just a thought, but you could try making the button out of 2 brushes; a one-unit thick brush in front and another world brush behind it. just take the button youve already got, clip it through the side and move the back brush to world.

ministeve said:
its just a thought, but you could try making the button out of 2 brushes; a one-unit thick brush in front and another world brush behind it. just take the button youve already got, clip it through the side and move the back brush to world.

Too completecated. Thicker walls are the key.

its not complicated. it would take 10 seconds to do.

thicker walls..

THICKER WALLS

No more no less.

ministeve said:
its not complicated. it would take 10 seconds to do.

then try it yourself, and find out that it doesn't work.

the problem is that buttons can be triggered through world brushes, so adding a 1unit thick brush isn't going to make any difference.

If you can't solve the problem with thicker walls alone, try.....thinner buttons! :shocked:

Note that the button itself can be as small as 1*1*1 units. You can then create a larger fake button around it, which provides the visible effect. Of course, this becomes slightly more complex if you want the fake button to move or to flash on/off, but it can be done.

hi gollum

Yak_Fighter said:
hi gollum

mike, swoops in for the kill

you know, mike would be the one to answer the entity limit posted earlier :biggrin:

Where the hell have you been Gollum - that was an unwelcome hiatus :razz: Nice to see you back though.

ReNo said:
Where the hell have you been Gollum - that was an unwelcome hiatus :razz: Nice to see you back though.

Spain, France and Egypt, mostly. I'm back home now and beginning to write; it' not easy to start and I shall have to regulate my distractions - such as this place! I will not be as regular a contributor as before, but I will be around :smile:

Thanks for the welcome guys. It's nice to be missed :smile:

LMAO @ fraggard

Welcome back gollum, good to have teh entity king back!

Or move the button on a different wall/area...

wil5on said:
LMAO @ fraggard

Welcome back gollum, good to have teh entity king back!

No, no, no. Entity GOD. as implied by Apotheosis

And yes, welcome back. You have indeed been missed.

He is a god. No doubt.

Now you're making me blush. Or to be entirely accurate, you're making my earthly avatar blush since I am metaphysically incapable of such an action :biggrin:

Spartan 34 said:

G.Ballblue said:

ReNo said:

fishy said:

Biological Component said:
Make thicker walls.

always worked for me :smile:

Or simply keep the button off the opposing face of the wall that the player can "reach through". Whatever :razz:

The problem isn't that the button is on the opposing face, its that the player can get close enough to the button from the other side of the wall to be within its useable radius. It happens even in some official Valve maps like in boot_camp, where you can use the HEV machine in one of the outermost buildings from the path around the outside of it.

It also happens on like the 2nd map of "Questionable Ethics". You know the operating room with the choppy crushy things? Look slightly to the left of the door. Nice exploit er? :biggrin:

Too many quotes aargh.... and oh yeah make thicker walls.

...just for fun :razz:

asterix_vader said:
...just for fun :razz:

i can see it now, all the native peruvians sit around and quote random topics.. its almost like.. watching grass grow, or even gasps paint drying.. olympic medal stuff i promise :biggrin:

/me waves at my peruvian bud.. so, how is it down in sunny peru today asterix?

asterix_vader said:

Spartan 34 said:

G.Ballblue said:

ReNo said:

fishy said:

Biological Component said:
Make thicker walls.

always worked for me :smile:

Or simply keep the button off the opposing face of the wall that the player can "reach through". Whatever :razz:

The problem isn't that the button is on the opposing face, its that the player can get close enough to the button from the other side of the wall to be within its useable radius. It happens even in some official Valve maps like in boot_camp, where you can use the HEV machine in one of the outermost buildings from the path around the outside of it.

It also happens on like the 2nd map of "Questionable Ethics". You know the operating room with the choppy crushy things? Look slightly to the left of the door. Nice exploit er? :biggrin:

Too many quotes aargh.... and oh yeah make thicker walls.

...just for fun :razz:

It's called cheap thrills Orpheous :razz:

You shouldnt have encouraged him, Asterix. Now look what he's doing.

Hey hey hey! Back to pampering my ego, please :wink:

/basks in opulent benevolence and mighty might

wil5on said:
You shouldnt have encouraged him, Asterix. Now look what he's doing.

asterix knows but a handful of english, and get far more kudos then BB does.. theres a lesson there i bet, to bad it will prolly be overlooked.

and after reading the "recently read" thread, the title "return of the king" definitely fits this thread mike.. you were/are sorely missed.. my msn hasn't been the same without you

Orpheus said:

wil5on said:
You shouldnt have encouraged him, Asterix. Now look what he's doing.

asterix knows but a handful of english, and get far more kudos then BB does.. theres a lesson there i bet, to bad it will prolly be overlooked.

and after reading the "recently read" thread, the title "return of the king" definitely fits this thread mike.. you were/are sorely missed.. my msn hasn't been the same without you

You people under estimate me :razz:

no we don't

:razz:

Yes you do

:razz:

G.Ballblue said:
You people under estimate me :razz:

if your goal, was to act like you do around here, you have succeeded magnificently.

G.Ballblue said:
You people under estimate me :razz:

Is this physically possible? Discuss.

Cassius said:

G.Ballblue said:
You people under estimate me :razz:

Is this physically possible? Discuss.

hey cass, read your damn PM's

sits back and waits on BB's reply

Me thinks blue has been sent by the devil specifically to punish those of us who never had to experience an annoying younger sibling.

Tracer Bullet said:
Me thinks blue has been sent by the devil specifically to punish those of us who never had to experience an annoying younger sibling.

Rofl my wafle

Cassius, the question isn't whether or not it is physically possible, but can you mentally handle it? :razz:

G.Ballblue said:
, but can you mentally handle it? :razz:

i am one of the few, that can stand toe-to-toe with cass in a text war.. BB, would you care to rephrase that, before cass comes back online? :biggrin:

Tracer Bullet said:
Me thinks blue has been sent by the devil specifically to punish those of us who never had to experience an annoying younger sibling.

Younger siblings aren't half as annoying :redface:

I'm not sure how exactly a question about button-pushing through a wall
exploded into this. Oh well, typical Snarkpit fashion, eh? :smile:

I haven't read the entire thread from the beginning, but now I just have to do it to see how all this fun started

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, but can you mentally handle it? :razz:

i am one of the few, that can stand toe-to-toe with cass in a text
war.. BB, would you care to rephrase that, before cass comes back
online? :biggrin:

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That sounds interesting :biggrin: ...

/waits for Cassius to return...