Doom 3

Doom 3

Re: Doom 3 Posted by Kage_Prototype on Wed Aug 4th 2004 at 12:49am
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Jesus H. Christ, this game is intense. And I'm not talking about some pussy game of Counter-Strike here, I mean f**king intense. Everything you've heard from the reviews seems to be pretty much 100% solid fact: this game will scare the piss out of you. id set out to create an action-packed horror video game, and they've done just that. Don't expect the sort of gameplay depth you got in System Shock or Resident Evil, because this game wasn't made with innovative gameplay in mind. It was made to scare you witless. All the elements come together so well, it's almost flawless in atmosphere. I'm glad I kept low expectations, because I've just been blown away. This is a pure-bred FPS of the highest calibur, and could only have come from id. Half-Life 2's gonna have to pull a very large rabbit out of it's hat to beat this.

I'd rather not spoil the experience by describing it to you, so I'll just say this. Take the advice id have given you. Turn the lights off, lock the door, turn the sound all the way up, and play alone. I can't even being to imagine how this game plays with a top of the line system.
Re: Doom 3 Posted by 7dk2h4md720ih on Wed Aug 4th 2004 at 12:51am
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Post your specs so I'll be able to guess if it'll run ok on my pc. :smile:
Re: Doom 3 Posted by Kage_Prototype on Wed Aug 4th 2004 at 12:55am
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Athlon XP2600+
512MB DDR PC2100
Radeon 9600 Pro

I'm running it on medium settings at 800x600. The first few levels have a large amount of detail, and as such some heavy fps drops occur here. But later on, things smooth out ok. But for some reason, when cut scenes occur, my fps is flawless, yet when I can move around again (the same area), my fps drops. Odd really. Don't expect it to run well and look as good as it does in the screenshots, because it won't. :smile: Doom 3 is a good excuse to upgrade.
Re: Doom 3 Posted by Ferret on Wed Aug 4th 2004 at 1:19am
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I've decided on my upgrade!

Athlon 64bit fx-43
2 gigs of ddr memory
Latest Geforce card (nameblank)
7.1 THX sounds (ought to give d3 some boost in fun)

I can't wait to get it, but I gotta keep workign!
Re: Doom 3 Posted by fishy on Wed Aug 4th 2004 at 1:43am
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omg, Ferret has finally crossed a dog with a koala bear.......... :biggrin:
Re: Doom 3 Posted by Tracer Bullet on Wed Aug 4th 2004 at 1:49am
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I've just played it at a friends house and I have to agree with you for the most part, Kage. The thing about it that bothers me though is how plentiful the health, armor, and ammo seem to be. you can go berserk in every firefight and never run out of ammo, or be too far from a powerup. I prefer games (like system shock) that keep you on the ragged edge in terms of equipment. it just adds a whole new element of desperation and contributes enormously to a frightening atmosphere. However this is a small quibble, if you have the time, money, and system for it, you have no excuse but to go out and get it right now!
Re: Doom 3 Posted by ReNo on Wed Aug 4th 2004 at 1:52am
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Its not out here yet. Good excuse if you ask me :razz:
Re: Doom 3 Posted by Ferret on Wed Aug 4th 2004 at 2:06am
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lol @ reno
Re: Doom 3 Posted by Campaignjunkie on Wed Aug 4th 2004 at 2:08am
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I must resist the evils of Doom 3... Well, at least until I finish my maps. :smile:
Re: Doom 3 Posted by G.Ballblue on Wed Aug 4th 2004 at 2:53am
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Ack. You beat me to it! I was plannin on starting this post :sad:

Everything in Doom3 is absolutely awesome. Graphics, gameply, guns, sound, atmosphere... there a few annoyting things which might just give HL2 the advantage it needs (assuming valve doesn't screw it up).

1. Why do I stop running when I change direction?

2. Come on! Atleast when boss battles hit in DOOM, they didn't throw you in tiny cramped up room! (I'm at the "spider boss", first one in the game).

3. Monsters pull a lot of incredibly cheap tricks, and there isn't enough health to go around (that is unless you wanna save everytime you move 6 feet :razz: )

BTW, how high do you have Doom3 cranked? I got mine set for max, pretty much evertyhing, but anti-aliasing is off, and I had to drop my res to 1280x1024.
Re: Doom 3 Posted by Crackerjack on Wed Aug 4th 2004 at 3:09am
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I have almost the same setup as Kage.. but a P4 1.3... it is quite likely to be the scariest game ever.. and its so action packed.. and when the lights go off.. omaI!!!

I suggest you go out and get it... and you does include CampaignJunkie!!!!

The shadows and lighting really do it all.
Re: Doom 3 Posted by half-dude on Wed Aug 4th 2004 at 4:45am
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Man you guys are killing me. I've been having problems with moving and am in the process of moving back to were I left. So here I am looking at everyone enjoying a game that I've waited for forever and this IS THE ONLY TIME I DONT HAVE MY COMPUTER!!!!! ARG

sorry to be so negitive :cry:
Re: Doom 3 Posted by Crono on Wed Aug 4th 2004 at 4:51am
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HD, don't worry it'll be out for all eternity now.
Re: Doom 3 Posted by $loth on Wed Aug 4th 2004 at 7:10am
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d00m3 is out??? Or did u just get a demo?
Re: Doom 3 Posted by SumhObo on Wed Aug 4th 2004 at 8:44am
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It's out: just check out the not-so-active countdown timer on their website. Dont know why they didn't release it in UK at the same time, the only effect a staggered release could have is increased piracy.
Re: Doom 3 Posted by Adam Hawkins on Wed Aug 4th 2004 at 11:02am
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Not out in the UK as they'll probably want to release throughout Europe at the same time, which means they have to have it translated and ready to release simultaneously - which might add a week or two to the release date :sad:
Re: Doom 3 Posted by $loth on Wed Aug 4th 2004 at 11:24am
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hm......i should of asked a friend of mine in the states to send it to me.
Re: Doom 3 Posted by alba on Wed Aug 4th 2004 at 11:54am
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well well, maps own bigtime :]
Re: Doom 3 Posted by G.Ballblue on Wed Aug 4th 2004 at 5:52pm
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ROFL. Perfect timing :lol:
Re: Doom 3 Posted by matt on Wed Aug 4th 2004 at 5:53pm
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Whats the multiplayer like? Is it mappable?
Re: Doom 3 Posted by omegaslayer on Wed Aug 4th 2004 at 6:46pm
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Answers Matt:
Multi player is sorta like Quake 3, only there is 100X detail (you can turn off lights and interact with just about everything), and yes it is mappable, from what Ive read you use the radiant editor.

Rants about D<sup>3</sup>
OMFG this game is sick it does hold up to all expectations and more, and it will scare you s***less, even without the sound up high (if I turned it up any higher I get kicked out.... must wait till everyone is gone) Just alone the lighting effects are a materpiece, it looks REAL!! BTW im rnning it at 1280x1024 med. detail..... Ive tried it at ultra high at 1600x1200 but it would lag when monsters attacked, AND I REPEAT do not trust D<sup>3</sup> to set the level of detail, it put me @ 600X800 on my 9800pro when I clicked the button :mad: . In anycase D<sup>3</sup> is something not to be missed by anyone.
Re: Doom 3 Posted by Kage_Prototype on Wed Aug 4th 2004 at 8:08pm
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1. Why do I stop running when I change direction?
You do? I don't.

I've just been introduced to mr. pinky demon...eek. I think this game is definite proof that original gameplay does not make something better, and that id really know their stuff..
Re: Doom 3 Posted by scary_jeff on Wed Aug 4th 2004 at 8:41pm
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It's out in the UK next week.
Re: Doom 3 Posted by $loth on Wed Aug 4th 2004 at 9:32pm
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ohhh thanks for that tip omega, im getting a radeon 9800 pro when my dad gives me some cash hehe.
Re: Doom 3 Posted by Kage_Prototype on Wed Aug 4th 2004 at 9:52pm
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Answers Matt:
Multi player is sorta like Quake 3, only there is 100X detail (you can turn off lights and interact with just about everything), and yes it is mappable, from what Ive read you use the radiant editor.
I thought Doom 3 used an editor that was a part of the game i.e. you load it up as you're playing.
Re: Doom 3 Posted by Kage_Prototype on Wed Aug 4th 2004 at 10:36pm
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Here's a little trick that'll boost your fps dramatically. In the base folder, load up the config file, find the line called "seta image_cacheMegs" and change the setting to the amount of system memory you have. It might be a bit jittery when first loading up and shutting down the game, but in-between your fps should increase by a large amount.

I am now able to play at high quality at 1280x1024 with noticeably better FPS counts than I did when playing at medium quality at 800x600. I also happened to have Kazaa and Azureus open at the same time. Insane.
Re: Doom 3 Posted by Cassius on Thu Aug 5th 2004 at 4:18am
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DOOM 3 BEST GAME EVER MADE
Re: Doom 3 Posted by Yak_Fighter on Thu Aug 5th 2004 at 6:54am
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I can't wait when I get a new computer. Then I'll be able to buy D3, discover it ain't all that special, and put it on the shelf to collect dust next to Morrowind, BF1942, RtCW, Jedi Knight 2, Starsiege: Tribes, the Sims, SimCity3... uh, basically 3/4ths of the PC games I own...
Re: Doom 3 Posted by $loth on Thu Aug 5th 2004 at 8:02am
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Cassius said:
DOOM 3 BEST GAME EVER MADE
next to half life 2 :razz:

Half life 2>d00m3
Re: Doom 3 Posted by Jinx on Thu Aug 5th 2004 at 8:50am
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Sorry, Half-Life 2 has to be RELEASED before you can say that :wink:

I'm enjoying DOOM 3, but I'm a little disappointed in some ways. It's a bit too repetitive, linear, and claustrophobic for my tastes (especially since I'm claustrophobic in real life to some degree). I think HL2 will be superior if Valve can reach their goals with it, because it's going to push gameplay in new directions, rather than just graphics. But hopefully D3 will keep us busy/scared s**tless until then lol. One really nice thing about D3, though, is the intuitive interation with computer panels etc., all done without a 'use' button.
Re: Doom 3 Posted by matt on Thu Aug 5th 2004 at 12:02pm
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Any change of some screens?
Re: Doom 3 Posted by RickJames on Thu Aug 5th 2004 at 3:05pm
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Man i just got the Radeon x800 and that is by far the best damn video card on the earth right now. Ive been playing doom3 with it and the graphics are sooooo good you feel like you are actually there (plus my THX surround sound speakers) great game. Just dont put the sound up too high, or graphics too high.
Re: Doom 3 Posted by Cassius on Thu Aug 5th 2004 at 3:18pm
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I'll say this: playing it with the lights on and the sound on normal volume, it isn't half special. Playing it with headphones on in pitch black, where you can really hear all the beauty of the sound (and considering all the lighting work, I was shocked at the sound quality), it is a better-than-film experience. Walk around on Ultra settings for a while too, you'll see what the game is really supposed to be.

I didn't like it until I saw a guy moving from one side of the room to the other, and watched the shadows cycle over the veins in his hand. That's f**king quality.
Re: Doom 3 Posted by ReNo on Thu Aug 5th 2004 at 3:20pm
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But if it took graphical detail for you to like it, surely its not that good a game :razz:
Re: Doom 3 Posted by G.Ballblue on Thu Aug 5th 2004 at 3:37pm
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Cassius said:
I'll say this: playing it with the lights on and the sound on normal volume, it isn't half special. Playing it with headphones on in pitch black, where you can really hear all the beauty of the sound (and considering all the lighting work, I was shocked at the sound quality), it is a better-than-film experience. Walk around on Ultra settings for a while too, you'll see what the game is really supposed to be.

I didn't like it until I saw a guy moving from one side of the room to the other, and watched the shadows cycle over the veins in his hand. That's f**king quality.
Yea well.... All's I have are a pair of satellites :razz:
Re: Doom 3 Posted by omegaslayer on Thu Aug 5th 2004 at 4:47pm
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ohhh thanks for that tip omega, im getting a radeon 9800 pro when my dad gives me some cash hehe.
Save up for the X800...i already ordered the X800 XT, it still has to be released. As for HL2 vs D<SUP>3</SUP> lets wait till the game is out before we make any guesses, but I agree with Jinx the gameplay with in HL2 will be its superior hold over D<SUP>3</SUP>, D<SUP>3</SUP> has out of this world graphics, but I lose that sence when Im fighting the monsters, its just a shoot-em-up type of game, with a little interaction (exploding barels). As for HL2 will allow you to interact with just about everything and use it as a weapon (picking up a washing machine and throwing it at a combine solder). But as for now im going to enjoy D<SUP>3</SUP> because I know HL2 will be "sick", but D<SUP>3</SUP> is "sick" NOW!
Re: Doom 3 Posted by Cassius on Thu Aug 5th 2004 at 4:55pm
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Atmosphere = 10950763985764x most movies in this game. Scariest f**king s**t ever.
Re: Doom 3 Posted by myrmidon on Thu Aug 5th 2004 at 5:38pm
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Playing it with headphones on in pitch black, where you can really hear all the beauty of the sound (and considering all the lighting work, I was shocked at the sound quality), it is a better-than-film experience.
I would expect no less, seeing as they had Trent Reznor working on the sound.
Re: Doom 3 Posted by omegaslayer on Thu Aug 5th 2004 at 6:25pm
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Kage_Prototype said:
Here's a little trick that'll boost your fps dramatically. In the base folder, load up the config file, find the line called "seta image_cacheMegs" and change the setting to the amount of system memory you have. It might be a bit jittery when first loading up and shutting down the game, but in-between your fps should increase by a large amount.
The amount being in mb..correct? And is it that plus the space you set aside on you hardrive also, or is it just you RAM amount?

edit: here is the info on the editor: http://www.qeradiant.com/?data=games/doom3
Re: Doom 3 Posted by Kage_Prototype on Thu Aug 5th 2004 at 8:03pm
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I would expect no less, seeing as they had Trent Reznor working on the sound.
Nope. He was, but he quit. :razz:

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That Tool comment of his is wrong by the way, Tweaker did the song.
Re: Doom 3 Posted by G.Ballblue on Fri Aug 6th 2004 at 12:28am
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myrmidon said:
Playing it with headphones on in pitch black, where you can really hear all the beauty of the sound (and considering all the lighting work, I was shocked at the sound quality), it is a better-than-film experience.
I would expect no less, seeing as they had Trent Reznor working on the sound.
Trent Reznor isn't exactly what I'd call the best game music guy on the planet... He CAN do good music, because hey, he DID do the "intro demo music" to the original Quake, which by all means kicked ass. I WOULD however like to know what happened to the original guy who did the original music for DOOM. His moody music.... really isn't that moody :\

And while were at it, I'd like to know what happened to John Romero :smile:
Re: Doom 3 Posted by ReNo on Fri Aug 6th 2004 at 12:36am
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Hehe, he started making mobile phone games, I think he may even have stopped that now :biggrin:
Re: Doom 3 Posted by Kage_Prototype on Fri Aug 6th 2004 at 12:42am
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I WOULD however like to know what happened to the original guy who did the original music for DOOM. His moody music.... really isn't that moody :\
You mean the guy who ripped off Pantera, Alice In Chains and Metallica songs? :biggrin:

I find that Trent Reznor is a very talented musician, and is certainly experienced in creating the sort of jarring sound a game like Doom 3 demands.
Re: Doom 3 Posted by G.Ballblue on Fri Aug 6th 2004 at 1:06am
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Noo--- I meant it this way--

I would like to know what happened to the original guy who did the orginal DOOM music.

Trent Reznor's moody music isn't very moody :biggrin:
Re: Doom 3 Posted by Kage_Prototype on Fri Aug 6th 2004 at 1:25am
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Trent Reznor's moody music isn't very moody :biggrin:
Go listen to Erazer, Ripe With Decay or The Downward Spiral, and then rethink that sentence. :razz:
Re: Doom 3 Posted by wil5on on Fri Aug 6th 2004 at 1:36am
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G.Ballblue said:
And while were at it, I'd like to know what happened to John Romero :smile:
You killed him at the end of doom 2! Dont you know anything! :razz:
Re: Doom 3 Posted by G.Ballblue on Fri Aug 6th 2004 at 2:08am
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wil5on said:
G.Ballblue said:
And while were at it, I'd like to know what happened to John Romero :smile:
You killed him at the end of doom 2! Dont you know anything! :razz:
Argh! Good point. I didn't remember that :smile:
Re: Doom 3 Posted by KingNic on Fri Aug 6th 2004 at 3:03am
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I'll stick to AVP2. Much scarier IMO, better gameplay and doesn't rely on flashy graphics to get its audience.
Re: Doom 3 Posted by Crono on Fri Aug 6th 2004 at 3:42am
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I'll stick to AVP2. Much scarier IMO, better gameplay and doesn't rely on flashy graphics to get its audience.
You're saying it like you have to choose :rolleyes:
Re: Doom 3 Posted by KingNic on Fri Aug 6th 2004 at 4:35am
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I'm just saying that all Doom3 appears to be is an engine show off. And
IMO it doesn't even look fantastic. Yeah sure there's nifty lighting
effects, but everything just looks like plastic for godsake. They
could've halved the poly counts and added some decent shaders like HL2
and it'd have looked 10x better.

The game is godawful.