The G-Man

I have seen a lot of posts on the net about who the G-Man is and his
role in the scope of things .. It is interesting that both the
HEV suit and the crowbar wound up back in Dr. Kleiner's labs...

But there is something else in Dr. Kleiner's lab that i only JUST realized...

On the video surveilance system .. it shows a picture of the guard at
his post .. when you put on your suit this guard leaves and Barney says
"we gotta go.." If you continue to watch the screen, the camera
will change and show the G-Man standing right beside the fence that the
guard was at... then he walks away.

A quick 'noclip' and I found the host area for that camera shot - and
it was indeed the G-Man .. standing there. I wonder where else in
the game they have 'snuck' him in.

Personally - I think the G-Man is Gordon Freeman in his older age (G in G-Man being Gordon, and Man being Freeman)

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<DIV class=quotetitle>? quoting Yesurbius</DIV>
<DIV class=quotetext>Personally - I think the G-Man is Gordon Freeman in his older age (G in G-Man being Gordon, and Man being Freeman)

</DIV></DIV>
hey, that is a pretty good possiblilaty, that would explain him Knowing gordon would make it in hl1 at the first place :biggrin: , thats cool, maybe valve got something planed for it :smile:

The G-man shows up alot in hl2, just as much as in hl1.

I dont know how in th hell valve would ever explane the g-man as future gordon, because....

A.) backwards time travel is impossible and even in the game world it
would create a parodox that would loop till the end of time. you
just CAN NOT travel back in time, try and wrap your head around
it:

Your father is killed when your 10 years old, so 40 years later you
travle back in time and save your dad, thus your father never was
killed and you never invented time travel to save your dad who is not
dead, but by not inventing time travel you arn't able to go back in
time in the first place and save your father who now is dead becuase you never invented time travel. So to save your
father you invent time travel and save his life. So now your
stuck in a loop that will go on and on...

...unless there are parallel dimentions or sub space, etc.

B.) The G-Man looks NOTHING like freeman

I did this gif to compare.



I leave no comment on how likely it is.

At least they have the same eye-colour.

WoW... I LOL when I saw that... After laughing I got kind of shocked...

Another thing I noticed, they have got the same shape of face. His cheecks have the same form too.

That's just freaky azelito... N1 :wink:

I've seen the G-Man 2 times when I first played through the game...
After that I went reading some other forums, and there people had mad a
list, of where the G-Man shows up... I think it was around 14 times. He
was in every chapter, except in Ravenholm if I can recall good.
<.< chicken... (or I was just too scared to not notice him :razz: )

GrTz

SmeTskE

They are not the same person. Why would G-man offer to kill him at the
end of the first one if they were? It's also a s**te, lazy twist.

botom line is, it could be true, but it could be false, we all don't know so don't start yaping at aechother becouse you think this is sh!@, becouse you do not know!

They are not the same person. Why would G-man offer to kill him at the
end of the first one if they were? It's also a s**te, lazy twist.

Basicly, if the G-Man is Gordon Freeman, he knew that Gordon wouldnt
choose his own death since he was alive and had already done that
before. I know this is pretty f**ked up but I would not be surprised if
they are the same person.

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<DIV class=quotetitle>? quoting BioPulse</DIV>
<DIV class=quotetext>botom line is, it could be true, but it could be false, we all don't know so don't start yaping at aechother becouse you think this is sh!@, becouse you do not know! </DIV></DIV>
It's a good thing you're here to police the forums. Who knows how many flamewars will be averted with BioPulse on the case!!

I think you look into it too much. G-man means government man, valve already said that back in HL1. And if you payed any attention to the plot, you'll realise all hes doing is watching you to see how well you do. Your an interstellar war agent now lol! (stupid plot they screwed it up).

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<DIV class=quotetitle>? quoting DrGlass</DIV>
<DIV class=quotetext>I dont know how in th hell valve would ever explane the g-man as future gordon, because....

A.) backwards time travel is impossible and even in the game world it would create a parodox that would loop till the end of time. you just CAN NOT travel back in time, try and wrap your head around it:

Your father is killed when your 10 years old, so 40 years later you travle back in time and save your dad, thus your father never was killed and you never invented time travel to save your dad who is not dead, but by not inventing time travel you arn't able to go back in time in the first place and save your father who now is dead becuase you never invented time travel. So to save your father you invent time travel and save his life. So now your stuck in a loop that will go on and on...

...unless there are parallel dimentions or sub space, etc.
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Nonsense. Changing the past is perhaps impossible as it's already happened by definition, and seeing as the GMan isn't killing Gordon then this is a perfectly decent time loop for him to travel!
And DrGlass, your dad has died before you travel back in time, so presumably either there is a parallel dimension, or you can't kill him if you travel back in time. Obviously a "clockwork universe" interpretation would fix this and say why, but nnnnooo we have to have all this nondeterministic nonsense :wink:

Well you haven't thought about it, Lep is right.

You dad is dead, you travel back to save him, do you save hime? You-

Do- you then go on to invent time travel for a different purpose, but this doesn't seem wierd and a new different loop is formed where you don't go back to save your dad.

Do- your dad then dies again and the timeline is just shiffted forward.

Don't- he dies and you go on to realised theres no point, but the other you goes on to make the time machine.

Double post again!

Back to the future 2 clearly states that when you go back in time to save your father, it will create a branch in the timeline. When you return to your original time, you go up the new branch instead of where you came from. Of course this theory implies that any backwards time travel will change the past, causing the timeline to branch, meaning once you have travelled back, you most likely will never return to your own universe.

the g-man is an alien!

G-man is a 1950's term for fbi agent pple :wink: . as for gordon being
gman... i dont think so. Listen to how seperated gmans words are.
According to a book i read about the 1950's conspiracy theories gmen
were "believed" to be supernatural beings whether alien or robot nobody
knew

also if you wait there long enough in the tram gman does kill u :wink: you
are teleported to a place with like unlimited alien grunts

And then credits roll =P

also i hear that gravity can "supposedly" be in particle form . What
would happen if you made gravitons into a lazer ... = GRAVITY GUN = P
and then for the shooting of the object just use dark energy = P

Not ANOTHER person doing crazy consecutive posting! For gods sake, if
you are adding to a post a mere few minutes later, then EDIT IT IN to
the original post.

Perhaps Gordon IS G-man, and the reason he never talks is because he was never confident with his speech impediment :razz:

The GMAN is not gordon. Young gordon doesn't have a widow's peak, GMAN does. It's a genetic impossibility to gain a widow's peak if you haven't one already.

Gordon's earlobes are attached and Gman's are not. Another genetic impossibility.

Gman has black hair and Gordon has brown.

they both wear a kind of suit though.

Nah I was only fooling, I definately don't agree with the g-man/freeman being the same person theory.

Maybe the G-Man is just Gabe Newell's alter ego, and gorden is actually the name of his peg dog. maybe.

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<DIV class=quotetitle>? quoting xconspirisist</DIV>
<DIV class=quotetext>Maybe the G-Man is just Gabe Newell's alter ego, and gorden is actually the name of his peg dog. maybe.
</DIV></DIV>
Gabe Newell's Alter ego would have to be that fat barney from BlueShift. Or in an extreme case (if you hate gabe.) it would be the advisor (fat slug on the screen in Breen's office.)

SO... there is a 99% chance that the G-man and freeman are NOT the same person.

I think its ludacris.

I think Valve just created the G-Man to get some mystery in the game. The G-Man reminds me a bit of Agent Smith in Matrix (the way he talks) and an agent in the X-Files (I can't remember his name, though).

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<DIV class=quotetitle>? quoting DrGlass</DIV>
<DIV class=quotetext>SO... there is a 99% chance that the G-man and freeman are NOT the same person.

I think its ludacris.
</DIV></DIV>
I don't see the resemblance myself, though I guess they are probably both arrogant f**ks.

Ohh no this board is going to be spamed with these types lame threads
like at Steampowered, go post stuff like this there, lets not start any
new ones that pertain to the story of HL2, there are already 100 of
them there, lets not put 200 of them here.

Maybe G-Man is Elvis and he's planing to travel back in in time
(hopfully to another dimension according to "dr glass") and take over
the world with his PARTICLE GRAVITYGUN!!!

I did this gif to compare.



I leave no comment on how likely it is.

At least they have the same eye-colour.

Haha just kidding!! G-man is >>ACTUALY<< a made up
characher in a game many ppl take 2 seriusly (for those of you that
didnt know, quit your conspiracy theories) :razz: :smile: :biggrin:

-man is an alien, in the book you get wiht the collectors edition they give a hint to that.

Maybe G-Man is Elvis and he's planing to travel back in in time
(hopfully to another dimension according to "dr glass") and take over
the world with his PARTICLE GRAVITYGUN!!!

I did this gif to compare.



I leave no comment on how likely it is.

At least they have the same eye-colour.

Haha just kidding!! G-man is >>ACTUALY<< a made up
characher in a game many ppl take 2 seriusly (for those of you that
didnt know, quit your conspiracy theories) :razz: :smile: :biggrin:

You sir, are gonna die a horrible and painful death!

Teh azleito has spoken.

You sir, are gonna die a horrible and painful death!

Teh azleito has spoken.

Haha im shaking ;P

You have to remember that Gordon Freeman is Dr. Gordon Freeman - MIT
Graduate. Obviously he must be capable of more things than
just throwing switches.

SO ... Gordon Freeman grows to be an old age, living a life as a
doctor serving the combine ... He modifies the combine technology in
his lab to be able to transport short distances on the planet and
thinks "Man if we had this back then - the right person in the wrong
place could cause this existence to change". He modifies
the teleporter with to allow him to travel throught he fabrics of
time and sets the events in motion for HL1 ... knowing the only
man he could trust to do his work, is himself. Setting the
events in motion, at the end of HL1 he meets with his former self,
posing as "the G-Man" .. he gives his former self the choice to
help him. Remember how when Gordon takes Kleiner's teleportation
device - it flashes him in and out of all those places .. I bet the
G-Man is travelling in a much more capable device that can move between
time and places as well. In the first scene of HL2 - you flash
around to a variety of areas including the citadel, Kleiner's lab,
etc...

Knowledge of the teleportation device, the HEV Suit, the crowbar - a
bunch of very important things are ensured that they make it back to
the resistance. The G-Man is there all along making sure this
happens. Furthermore, if he is present in most scenes, then I am
sure he has some unseen hand in ensuring that Gordon is doing his job
... and at the end when everything is finished ... Out steps the
G-Man and says "Cool! Lets go now." (in not so many words) ...

Everything the G-Man has got Gordon to do has been carefully laid out
... If he got anyone else but his former self to do it - he would
lose the ability to predict exactly how things would unfold.

My 2 cents.

Man, if that's how Half-Life 3 ends, I'm gonna be real pissed at you for spoiling it for me 6 years in advance.

Have you brought your short-barreled shotgun with you, Mouse? :biggrin:

Well, I don't think G-man needs to be Gordon in order to know what's
going to happen. If he has so much control over time that he can
literary stop it, and probably also move through several dimensions,
then he can also know what is about to happen.

Or perhaps he himself only knows what he needs to know, and his employers are the ones that know more...

Hmmz, first we wanted to know who this administrator is... are those 'employers' the next guys we have to find out about?

From what I can tell by reading the memos sent to Gordon and Barney (in the HL1 manuals), there are two mysterious people involved in the whole incident: Dr Kleiner and "LM". I bet the G-Man is one and his "employer" is the other. Together they organised the whole Black Mesa incident to see if Gordon and Barney and everyone else would be able to adapt. Like some sort of bizarre test or something.

no that's too simple, It's gotta be something completely off the wall. It has to be unrelated to the story we've been following. As unrelated as Eastern Europe is to Black Mesa.

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<DIV class=quotetitle>? quoting RaPtoR</DIV>
<DIV class=quotetext>Maybe G-Man is Elvis and he's planing to travel back in in time (hopfully to another dimension according to "dr glass") and take over the world with his PARTICLE GRAVITYGUN!!!I leave no comment on how likely it is.
At least they have the same eye-colour.
</DIV></DIV>
This post is absolute beauty. I nominate you for Time Magazine's Man of the Year.

Perhaps the G-Man is Satan and/or Gordon's evil twin.

(But my bet is on his being an android)

His a robot or an alien thats for sure

Also whos the chubby alien in hl2?

:smile:

stop going back to time travle! it just would not happen. Whould
you go back in time, risk your life, etc. knowing that

1.) you'd create a parodox that would collapse the fabric of the universe

or

2.) going back in time and changing s**t would only change stuff in another dimention?!

no!

I think I'm going to play though HL1 again and think about it.

Jaardsi, that is really quite uncanny!

Jaardsi, that is really quite uncanny!

no its not, your all crazy

THe GMAN is not gordon in the future or anything like that. I think he is some being higher up than gordon. I think he may even be an alien in human form, He is agaist the combine so he may be a rebel alien alreadly of combine control trying to stop the combine from becoming more powerful with earth. I believe he knew what was going to happen at black mesa (Breen was admin of black mesa and planed the whole thing, except for freeman's intervention, with the combine's help thinking the combine would come to help and merge technology and make super advandced tehcnology with each other; he was wrong ) GMan knew blackmesa was going to happen and went to try and stop it. But he couldn't stop it. as he moved through black mesa he noticed a man in a hazard suit performing very well with the xen invasion. The xen invasion is another thing, Teh combine, who controlled the xen liek they control humans in HL2, sent the xen race's main part, the vorgitnuts, to start the invasion, becasue the combine where unable to teleport there yet, until gorodn lauched the satellite in the first game; that opened a portal for the combine to pass through freely. In HL1, when gordon fights Nihlithal, the breen like figure of the xen world, he frees the xen from combine control, this angers the combine and they invade full scale, but before this happens the gman confronts gordon and puts him into statis until he needs gordon next, which is HL2.

this is really interesting about the HL storty and GMAN

BTW backwards time travel is not inherently impossible, but if you tried to go back and kill your grandfather then gramps will always survive somehow (it's also possible he kills you in self defence!).

How the hell do you know that gman is against the combine, have you seen him shoot them?

I think you'd have to be crazy to seriously believe that G-Man has any resemblence to Data. Come on!