London explosions

For those of you who haven't heard, London has been hit by terrorist
attacks this morning. Five underground stations were hit by explosions,
as well as a packed double decker bus. So far only 2 are confirmed
dead, though it would seem very unlikely that the final figure will
remain that low. People are talking of "many casualities", and I've
also heard the figure of around 180 casualties being used. An Al Qaeada
group have apparently claimed responsibility for the attacks.

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myrk told me about this, didnt see anything on the news, or maybe i didn't watch the news at all...cant remember.

its sad to hear that such things happens,why didn't they just blow up some desert or some other place without people instead :/

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Because they hate us Westerners for not believing in what they believe...
My father was lucky because he was offered to go on a trip through London but luckily he refused and later on we see the horrible news.

When will this end! They must sort it out now!

Well, this is making me really upset. It feels just like 9/11 again.
But we shouldn't focus our rage at the islamic people cuz that wont
make us better than them. The terrorist attacks come from small cells
of stupid, religius fanatics and it's they who should be put out.

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RaPtoR said:
The terrorist attacks come from small cells of stupid, religius fanatics and it's they who should be put out.

if by 'put out' you mean 'hung by the testicles and roasted slowly over an open fire', then i'd be forced to agree. :/

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I read that an emergency worker was saying casualities could be "in the double digits".

This is quite sad. I hope everyone from the pit is safe. (Do we have anyone here from London?)

I just read an article that said " '45 dead, and over 100 wounded' - from a reliable but unofficial source."

Yeah, that does suck.

the BBC one says 32, and 1000's injured, and theyre an official source i believe.

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I was well worried, my mum and aunt works about 100 meters from
liverpool street station, was about 1 hour until i heard from her. Her
buiding was evacuated but shes fine. But now my mums got the hard work
of getting home with no transport.

This is such a blow, but I am relieved in a way because it didn't
happen at Trafalgar Square yesterday when the 1012 Olympic winner was
announced. The casulties must have been higher there.

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Its Tragic

This sucks, why would some assholes bomb london. It really didn't
get them anymore than a country full of really pissed off people.
I really feel for you guys over in the UK, hope you get it sorted out.

Until Later...

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Not to take anything away from this tragedy, but, I'm glad they didn't hit us this time :/

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Isn't it a huge coincidence! 7 explosions, July 7th... 7 in 7th at 7...
in year 2007, can we expect 07.07.07 be 7 nukes sent on earth??? that
would highly suck.

But - it's really tragic and I feel very sorry for all londoneers.

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There were only 4 explosions actually :razz: At the time people were
talking about hearing loud bangs at 7 different stations, but it turned
out that the explosions were occuring in the tunnels between them.

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Something to wonder...

If it had been America who was hit, which middle east nation would Bush dismantle because of it?

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All of them.

news just in: 37 killed 700 injured from bbc.com
i was on the internet at 11 this morning when i heard about. i really couldnt believe it for a few moments. anyone see the picture of the bus that got hit. that must have been a terrible bomb.
alot of muslims are going to get hell after this (im not saying all muslims are terrorists but thousands of pissed off brits are going to blame someone) and there are going to be some serious world repercussions.

Hatred breeds more hatred. Though I am not a person who forgives easily, I can't really figure out a way to stop these terrorists, and the endless cycle of violence.

I think world peace is impossible, as long as we have religion.

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"The greatest thing you'll ever learn is just to love and be loved in return." -- Toulouse-Lautre, Moulin Rouge

yeah religion always seems to screw with alot of people: medieval crusades, jewish antisemitism throughout the ages, christian and islamic fundamentalists, general racism and stereotyping.
i agree with you 100% satchmo, we should do away with religion and teach the morals that religions teach just as they are, morals.

Or we should just say be a good citizen and don't break the law.

Bam, you're set.

This is terrible! All my condolences to the British people; I hope everyone from SnarkPit and their families are ok...

I think Bush was right in the end: we must get rid of this plague at any cost.

It pains me to say it, but you have a point there -- Bush is right in
his own twisted way. :sad: London was the last place I would have expected
such a thing to happen.

The rag heads Al Queda will claim responsibility, but it doesn't mean its them...

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Enough of the "rag heads" s**t - no need for any of that Myrk.

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i was off to work as it was unfolding on cnn.....hope the uk pit establishment is well..... :sad:

as per the culprits....well, its hard to say where it will end....im thinking tho that ole tony blair and georgie bush are gonna do some kind of under the table work to get this "cell" exposed and terminated with extreme predudice....and if push comes to shove, my british bretheren, you can bet yer ass and yer housecat that the US will have your back in any retaliatory format chosen....god speed the lives of the innocent folks lost, and im really hoping these two fellas at the head of the tables quit f**kin' around and go do the job right......it pains me to see american and british and other troop factions dying needlessly......s**t....we are spending 4 billion a month plus on iraq alone, and where is it getting us....really..?

time to s**t or get off the loo.... and yes, it has a 911 air about it all over again.......maybe we needed a reminder, im saddened to say.....sometimes, pissed off works wonders. :wink:

again.....london pitters, sound off please.....i wanna know yer ok....peace.

Doc B..... :dodgy:

This is an email from the husband of an acquaintance in London:

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Hi everyone,

Just checking in - i'm ok but very shaken up.

I caught the Hammersmith and City Line train from Paddington at about 8:40 this morning. The train went 1 stop to Edgware Road and stopped.
Just as it was aboout to start up again there was a very loud bang. More like the sound of a collision than an explosion. We didn't know what it was but they suggested it was a power surge and they needed to evacuate the station as a precaution. So we evacuated the station. I got on a double decker bus to go to Kings Cross. The plan was to walk from there to Angel where I work. As we approached Euston station it was clear there was another explosion at a station close to Euston as the police had blocked off Euston road. Our bus was diverted south towards Russel
Square. The bus driver announced that because the bus had been diverted he didn't know how to get to Kings Cross station so maybe people wanted to get off. A lot of people did, but I did not. A couple minutes later the bus got stuck in pretty bad traffic. I was already way late for work, and had great excuse so I thought about going upstairs and just waiting till the bus got to Kings Cross. In the end I decided i needed to get to work because i was building this Bingo game for BC's birthday party tomorrow night with Nick so I needed to be online.

So i got off the bus, walked about 20 paces and it blew up.

Its the Russell square bus you'll see it on TV - it had no roof or side.

very lucky. There would have been 30 people still upstairs on that bus -

i hope they are not too seriously injured.

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Amazing huh? His guardian angel was working hard this morning.

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"The greatest thing you'll ever learn is just to love and be loved in return." -- Toulouse-Lautre, Moulin Rouge

That was lucky. God I hate all damn terrorists.

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If we just hate the people that do this and dont try to understand why they do these things, we will just find ourselves repeating history.

That is horrible. I wouldve never expected for terrorist to attack London. Why?

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I wouldve never expected for terrorist to attack London. Why?

Anyone is fair target as far as Bin Laden is concerned, even fellow countrymen. He's just flat out crazy. It doesn't matter whether these are innocent civilians. Actually, I take that back. It does matter because he probably prefers to kill innocent people. Cute chubby babies are even better targets for him.

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"The greatest thing you'll ever learn is just to love and be loved in return." -- Toulouse-Lautre, Moulin Rouge

Why are people surprised it occured in London? Unfortunately it really
has been a sense of "when" rather than "if" - it was almost seen as
inevitable that the UK would see some sort of terror attack given its
involvement in the Iraq / Afghan situations. London is the obvious
target in the UK due to its population, and the underground has
apparently always been seen as the most vulnerable spot in the city to
terrorist attack. Some may have expected the G8 meeting in Gleneagles
to be the target, but due to the immense security, it would have to
have been incredibly well planned and executed to have worked there.

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And I am worried that the Los Angeles International Airport (LAX) will be the next target. It just seems to be the next logical choice. It's on the West Coast, it's extremely crowded, and it's security is not air-tight.

I am glad that I don't use that airport very often.

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"The greatest thing you'll ever learn is just to love and be loved in return." -- Toulouse-Lautre, Moulin Rouge

If I was a terrorist I would fly a plane into the Hoover Dam. I mean
that would knock the power out all along the west coast, as well as take a big strain on the power grid, cripple vegas,
flood something downstream, and empty lake mead. Screw LAX.

But thats another matter all together..

I feel for the britts, and my thoughts and prayers are with the
Brittish people... its bad, but it could of been worse.. they could of
flown something into Bigben, or some other major landmark there and
killed many more people like the world trade center attack.

The hoover dam is f**king STRONG. I doubt a plane could take it out.

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One thing i dont get, everybody is shocked that 38 died(right/wrong?),
but nobody seems to care that thousends die daily in africa. The irony.

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The strength of the turbulence is directly proportional to the temperature of your coffee.

With the Hoover dam's location, it would be difficult to get a plane large enough to do damage in place. Youd have to fly through a narrow canyon, it would take lots of skill to fly anything larger than a cessna into the dam face. A well-placed bomb would be far more effective, but even so, would have to be very powerful to burst the dam.

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How about a Cessna full of explosives (not only on the inside but also
attached in plastic containers on the outside, under the fuselage)? A small
crack in the dam's structure should be enough to break it all under the
pressure of the water on the other side.

Youd think so, but no. Dams are curved so that the pressure of the water bends the dam forward, pushing the ends out into the walls of whatever canyon/valley its built in. An explosion on the dry wall of the dam would probably do some damage, but it would take a large explosion to burst a dam from that side. Bombing from the other side, underwater, is more effective, since the explosive force works with, rather than against the force from the water. Watch Dambusters, and pay more attention this time :razz:

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ReNo said:
Unfortunately it really has been a sense of "when" rather than "if" - it was almost seen as inevitable that the UK would see some sort of terror attack given its involvement in the Iraq / Afghan situations.

Yeah, unfortunately it was only a matter of time. Rightly or wrongly the UK has been the staunchest supporter of the US & President Bush in their 'war of terror' policy, so an attack on UK soil was always on the cards.

Latest death toll is 'at least 50'...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4663931.stm

Perhaps we should rethink the concept of terrorism. These people
are labeled terrorists because we believe their goal is to spread
terror. However, what they are best at is not spreading terror, but in spreading hatred and anger.

Take any comment in this thread, for example. Did we show any
fear towards the terrorists? Our first reaction is no doubt anger
and disbelieve, immediately followed by hatred towards people in those
countries and religion other than ours. We want to blame people,
hold individuals accountable, whether we'll ever get those terrorists
is unknown. But we want someone to pay for the heinous act.

So what I am getting at is that we should do our best and try not to
fall into their trap. We should not aid their goal of spreading
hatred, and make our humanity an even worse entity.

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What the hell is going on. Are you guys aware your planning out ways to destroy the hoover dam? Your the terrorists. :smile:

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Humm I went on a tour of the hoover dam when I was a teenager.. many
many moons ago.. If they approach it from the lake side its all open..
they just have to hit the very top of it to break it up.. Or they could
dive down on it from above the canyon.. it would not be as hard
as you think.

There is also tours of the dam, and I bet someone could stap themselfs
with enough explosives to do some damage to something.. but then again
the tour was mostly though mountain tunnels carved many years ago and
the engine room with the big turbines etc.

Yeah Windows I guess we are.. heh.. Sorry about straying off topic.

But pepper is right about something.. the terror is just a few seconds
long thier actions take place, then afterword we all bad together and
fix the damage, help one another out, and get stronger. They only build
us stronger, tougher, and make thier people more hated.. mabe thats the
goal here..

I really d? feel sorry about the explosions in London, all my thoughts
go out to the families involved, but something about this whole Hunt For Terrorists thing bothers me.

As soon as something blows up, be it a suicide-terrorist, car bomb or
backpack explosives, the first thing people do is trying to link the
terrible events to Al-Quada.

No problems with that, but for the media, no other
terroristic organisation exists. About a year ago, a car bomb explodes
in a city in Nigeria (a region where no/little AQ-activity had
been noticed), and the first thing I hear on the news is how they are
linking the explosion to Al Quada. I believe the international
community is pinning herself down on one enemy, which is not good.

Also, every group of terrorists with twisted muslim-like ideas will be
labeled as having a connection to Al Quaida, like there are no other
groups of sicko's. Most of the "connection"-proof is an obscure message
on a website, at the moment. Of course, what's better than telling the
world you're part of organisation that hit the WTC and the American
embassy ? And sure, the internet is always right.

The actual terrorist movement isn't going to tell the press they don't
know you, that would be stupid. Now they have free advertisement for
their silly ideas. Look how organized we are. We've got people everywhere. Madrid, London, Istanbul. You can't run, you can't hide !

Other people profit of this 'succes'.
In the hours after the explosions, the embassies of Germany and Italy
recieved phone calls and e-mails containing weird arabic characters.
You can raise the alarm level in a country by using a public terminal,
a mailbox and some good timing, go figure. I really don't believe in a
widespread, synchronized attack performed by any terrorist movement.

You can scare the **** out of most people these days by using "Al Quaida"., and that's because I think the press is simplifying a lot. Stories about thousands of different little terrorist cells don't <span style="font-style: italic;">sell. </span>They
all want cover stories containing the name of the world's worst fear, a
group of wacky psycho's mis-interpreting a holy book, with henchmen all
over the world's biggest cities.

Do not understand me wrong, I just hate to believe the simple stuff the press and the American Government is serving me.

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MoneyShot, you must have gone awhile ago. My family went on
vacation there just last year, and their security is
tight. We got our RV searched 2 miles before the damn,
then we got personally checked before we got on the damn (right infront
of it I mean)

When we were there, they were also talking about a bypass they're building, so that no cars will be allowed on the damn anymore.

Yeah, and there were cops everywhere, it was pretty tight. Lots of metal detectors and crap.

While this is a quote from a movie, its is very valid in real life

fear leads to anger, anger leads to hate, hate leads to suffering

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Forceflow said:
As soon as something blows up, be it a suicide-terrorist, car bomb or backpack explosives, the first thing people do is trying to link the terrible events to Al-Quada.

Thats the thing, people need to blame some one for everything. We want an enemy to rally against, and its hard to rally against an enemy that has no territory, concrete leaders, or solid purpose. We can never beat terrorist, I mean hell... the founding fathers were terrorist. As long as there is a big power there will always be something nipping at it.

Thats why the hunt of Osama is a waist. If you cut off Al-Quada's head a hunderd more will pop out. I think that is what really scares people. This isn't like a second Hitler, we cant just storm a city and say we beat the bad guys.

Then on the other hand we cant bend to their demands or every ratical with a bomb will get their way.

and pepper is right, while it is sad that 38+ people died... think of all the death all over the world. I mean Iraq has terrorist bombings every week killing 10 to 200 each time, but they just get a 30 second segment on mid-day CNN. The same thing happens in a 1st world country and it seems like those who died were far more innocent than the woman, children, police, people of Iraq...

satchmo said:
This is an email from the husband of an acquaintance in London:

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Its the Russell square bus you'll see it on TV - it had no roof or side.

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Russel Square? i thought it was Tavistock.

Anyway that is an amazing story, he was damn lucky.
id like to know if its just an ordinary bomb or a suicide bomber. i think it would be just an ordinary bomb i dont know a suicide bomber seems hard to believe.

MoneyShot said:
If they approach it from the lake side its all open.. they just have to hit the very top of it to break it up..

Sorry for staying off-topic, but that wouldnt do much. Like I said, go watch dambusters.

London, Madrid, New York, Tokyo, Bali show that a terrorist attack can happen anywhere, anytime without warning. I'm not going to worry about getting killed by a terrorist, any more than I'd worry about getting hit by a car, or any number of other random things that can kill you. None of these terrorist attacks made me feel threatened, because if I were to be killed in a bombing, I wouldnt get any warning anyway.

Glad to see our english regulars are ok :smile:

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I spoke to one of my mates on EQ2 when it happened. not quite so lucky
as that person from the email but still, very short not quite to sweet
id say.

Talking to me very Shaken (ahem...) He basicaly said that he got of the train about 10 minutes before it blew up in London.

I realy dont see the point in terrorism, just a bunch of f***ing wacko's if you ask me.

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