<span style="color: silver;">WHO CAN BUILD THE COOLEST PLAYER TRAP [size=13]would be an AWESOME idea.</span>[/size]

<span style="color: silver;">WHO CAN BUILD THE COOLEST PLAYER TRAP</span>

...that the player can escape. It wouldn't be just creative killing, it
would be a real gameplay element. :smile: Although I still think that little
singleplayer map would rock. Get from point A to C through B or D or by
using E.

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<span style="color: silver;">Any small single player map or something involving making a trap or something would be tits times 100.</span>

Hmm...a trap can be anything from a small closet-sized room to a huge warehouse. So I won't have to work too much. Hell yes! :biggrin:

Hmm...yes. I vote for "Trap Map" competition.

4 Votes for Singleplayer Trap Map. :smile:

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BOMBADA!!! DEFINETLY! GREAT IDEA! IM IN!

<div style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: silver;">

2006 SNARKPIT

</span><span style="color: silver;">[size=32]'MAP A TRAP'
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COMPETITION</span>
<span style="color: silver;"></span></div><span style="color: silver;">

</span>It has a ring to it, doesn't it?

Indeed. Anyone opposing our mighty 5 votes?

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Indeed. Anyone opposing our mighty 5 votes?

Let's map that trap.

Sounds good to me.

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I wont be participating but that seems like a fun idea.

I wont be participating but that seems like a fun idea.

Why not, if I may inquire?

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People have many other things to do before they could even attempt to participate in this competition. Morphine is one of those people. I am too.

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Blame it on Microsoft, God does.

It's my last year at college / uni, and I'm kept extremely busy filling out job applications and worrying about the rest of my life, not to mention class, swim seasons quickly approaching, and my attempts to be as social as possible.

Additionally... my laptop is too old.

Posting here, and recently idling at IRC are the 2 videogame related pleasures I'll allow myself.

count me in, extreme noviciate rank

and engine restrictions?

Map a trap?...Seems a bit too open, a few guidelines are needed me thinks.

A sixth (or seventh) vote for the trapmap.
There should be some restrictions, but I can't think of any right now :razz:

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I think rules like the map must be nice to look at and not some random fullbright box with the trap.

I also think the trap should either involve the player to survive or enable the player to kill a few combine...

The beta Ravenholm comes to mind.

What about the HL1 users/mappers.

You can still make a trap. It wont involve physics, but it's still possible!
It'll be a tad more difficult, however.

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Blame it on Microsoft, God does.

So Goldsource, and Source entries will be judged seperately?

I think that if this is to be the theme of the contest, then the idea of having seperate novice and experienced categories should be scrapped. Focusing on something like a trap means experience level becomes a little less important, as chances are most of us have very little experience in this field. Its more about originality than level design skill. Thoughts?

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I absolutely agree with you, I know I'm considered a Novice, and yet have no idea on what to map as a trap. So Originality places the main role in this competition.

<span style="color: silver;">Absolutely....but splitting the compo into HL1 and HL2 entries might not be a bad idea.</span>

<span style="color: silver;">Absolutely....but splitting the compo into HL1 and HL2 entries might not be a bad idea.</span>

Agreed.

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ReNo said:
Focusing on something like a trap means experience level becomes a little less important, as chances are most of us have very little experience in this field. Its more about originality than level design skill. Thoughts?

if it involves the entity system, i'd need to enter as a beginner.

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In my mind, the competitions are meant more as an impetus for starting and finishing projects rather than something to actually win. Because learning is fun.

I like to learn :0

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Good stuff. So...
Rules (Including, but not limited to (meaning feel free to add)):
No fullbright
The player must live if he goes along with the schema of the map. Deviation may cause pain!!

...You guys want a limit for dimensions?

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As I Lay Dying

<span style="color: silver;">I'd say fullbright could be allowed, but if you want your entry to be taken seriously, put in some lights and compile rad....unless, of course, your map is flatshaded.</span>

Everything's allowed but non-artistical fullbright maps will be laughed at.

Some guidelines for the definition of "trap" and how it will be judged would be nice, though. I imagine it to be frustrating to work on a very detailed entity construct and then see the map being rejected because the judges "don't like maps where the player hasn't a chance to survive" or similar.

Ok, then, how about a limit on dimensions?
I'm not too keen on it, as it could limit some freaky-deaky skyscraper of doom to a mid-sized building of doom.

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The skyscarper argument makes sense.
I'd say it should be clear to the player that there is a trap. Hidden death pits o' doom have their bad reputation for a reason. Maybe even a way to pass unhurt.

<span style="color: silver;">To
keep it from being too complicated and making it a mini SP game, it
should basically just be a room you can walk into...see the trap, and
be able to walk into it....the judging being how nice it looks, how
good it is at killing you, originality etc etc etc.

Or, have it be that you have to get from point A to point B and evade an obstacle-like-course deathtrap.

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Or have the rules be open ended...If you don't know what a trap is, don't bother making a map, lol. All the map needs to have is the primary focus being that it has one clever trap in it.
</span>

IMO it should be a small SP Level, nothing too fancy, a corridor or a
small room or something, that you can navigate and eventually set-off
the trap. After all, not not knowing where the trap is nor what will
set it off is part of what makes traps fun.

1. A SP map with (1) trap in it.
2. Up to to the designer whether the trap is obvious, or devious.
3. A .txt file should be included detailing the specifics of the trap, especially if the trap is not so obvious...
4. All design issues to include map size, eye candy, context, etc. should be up to the designer.

/four cents

I say we need a contest that has you make a map from any mod, but with a unique concept. Something like being the combine in a HL2SP map, or working together against NPCs on a HL2DM map, or making a funky racing map for CS:S. Just an idea, my opinion.

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I say we need a contest that has you make a map from any mod

IMO that would only create confusion. No, we need to agree on a mod and
stick to it. I for one vote for vanilla HL2.

I vote for vanilla HL1 and HL2. :smile:

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Thing about that, not all of us are familiar. Can somebody supply me with a download link?

<span style="font-family: Verdana;">[quote=Unbreakable]<span style="color: white;">[size=13]Thing about that, not all of us are familiar.<br style="font-family: Verdana;"></span>[/quote]
Assuming you were referring to what "vanilla" was...

</span><span style="color: silver;">Vanilla: </span>A
term for an investment instrument with no exceptional features. Or in
other words, normal HL2, with no weird variants. Vanilla HL2 being HL2
only without special modifications to the engine.

Having said that, I too vote for regular old vanilla HL1 and HL2. And HL1/2SP, Not DM. The contest being split into the best HL1 entry and the best HL2 entry.

[/size]<div class="quote"><div class="quotetitle">[size=13]? quoting Lawjackal[/size]</div><div class="quotetext">[size=13]
1. A SP map with (1) trap in it.

2. Up to to the designer whether the trap is obvious, or devious.

3. A .txt file should be included detailing the specifics of the trap, especially if the trap is not so obvious...

4. All design issues to include map size, eye candy, context, etc. should be up to the designer.

[/size]</div></div>[size=13]
While
I agree a "one trap" maximum, a txt file should not be REQUIRED, but if
you feel your trap is so complex that the judges won't understand it, a
txt file may be included. I also would like to add that custom content
(textures, sounds, models) should be absolutely allowed, and bundled
into the bsp if possible so people dont have a million custom leftover files floating around their computer. This can easily be done with a program called
PakRat....made by SnarkPit's own Rof. If you need help on how to use it, ask me. You need java to run it.

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Ah yes, I've heard that term used before now that you mentioned that. What a bout textures. Could they still be custom?

[quote=Unbreakable]What a bout textures. Could they still be custom?[/quote]<span style="color: silver;">[size=13]

Dark Tree said:
[/size]</span>[size=13][size=13]
I also would like to add that custom content
(textures, sounds, models) should be absolutely allowed, and bundled
into the bsp if possible so people dont have a million custom leftover
files floating around their computer. This can easily be done with a
program called
PakRat....made by SnarkPit's own Rof. If you need help on how to use it, ask me. You need java to run it.

[/size][/size]

Sure, I'll have myself some vanilla, they were out of mint chocolate chip anyway.
I'm in favor of the text file, it will prevent a map getting a low score because the play tester missed something.

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wow Pakrat is indeed a cool proggy. One thing though, does it work for embedding hl1 models into hl1 maps?

Unby, it embeds maps, models, textures, sounds, etc. into a .pak. :biggrin:

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