Today, 5 years ago, a date that will live in infamy.

Happy anniversary to me.... And belatedly,Snarkpit

/me takes a silent moment of reflection.

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The best things in life, aren't things.

Bet you Snarkpit wont make it to 6 years!

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Check out my Counter-Strike: Source map, DE_VEIKKO!

ofcourse it will. only, it will be just general banter. the word "mapping" will be a vague memory

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In the famous words of someone I wish I knew... "I have a dream"

Snarkpit will be here... If I have anything to do with it.

looks toward Duncan and John

Yeah... a good dream.

(I only posted this thread because over the next month or three, many Snarkpit anniversaries will occur.)

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I'm 1 and a half.

:biggrin: Took me a while to work out what this thread was about, then the light turned on... AHH!

A virtual drink fo all*! :beerchug: Yay Snarkpit!

*All you that are underage can have one as well (just dont tell anyone :razz: )

Rumple, is that the real Barney in your avatar?

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:dodgy:

Rumple said:
:biggrin: Took me a while to work out what this thread was about, then the light turned on... AHH!

Sorry Rumple.. Seems my sense of clarity is just as defective now, as it was five years back. The topic heading and content seemed OK to me.

Happy B-Day Snarkpit.

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:dodgy:

It's not more than year for me but I like it here.

:beerchug:

Happy anniversary, SnarkPit!

I meant to announce this on the 22nd but forgot. Happy birthday, old Snarky. Now, if only we could get Lep to show up for the occasion.

FOOOOOOR she's a jolly good website,
for she's a jolly good website,
for she's a jolly good websiiiiiiiiite, that nobody can deny!

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FOOOOOOR she's a jolly good website,
for she's a jolly good website,
for she's a jolly good websiiiiiiiiite, that nobody can deny!

What he sang in slightly more crappier english.

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Dystopia - Empires

Pvt.Scythe said:
What he sang in slightly more crappier english.

You obviously haven't heard english, spoken in Texan.

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You obviously haven't heard english, spoken in Texan.

And that's the truth :wink:

I'm so glad my dad grew up in Canada, had he been a native Texan I would most likely have a much more noticable Texan dialect. Take George W's dialect (non-existant words and all) and amplify it by about 10 and you've got rural Texan (or someone from Dallas).

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/me was born in Bell county, Fort Hood Texas.

I know exactly what you mean. I bet its a fun time indeed listening to you talk in Canuck/Texan colloquialisms.

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Happy Birthday, Snarkpit!

I have been here for almost 2 years. It's been quite a journey, I've got almost EVERYONE to disagree with me on at least one point. I hope to have you all by the end of this year.

No matter what i say, I really do love all you people here. Even Orpheus, who disagrees with me the most. :smile:

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http://www.dimebowl.com

Nickelplate said:
Even Orpheus, who disagrees with me the most. :smile:

What is truly ironic is, I almost never disagree with you. Many of your goals, reflect mine. What I do tend to dislike is your methodology in your angst in obtaining your goals.

You would make me look dumb, if I were to back you in them. I look dumb enough without any assistance from you.

Its truly frustrating sometimes to see you paint yourself into a corner, when your topic has noble contents. Sometimes I wish you'd think before hitting that submit button. Its so very rare to find someone who shares my idiosincracies...

Watch me sometimes... When your back is against the wall the hardest, is the times I say nothing at all in the topic.

shrugs

Perhaps you should wish that you'll agree with others, instead.

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Congrats Snarkpit. :smile:

Congrats all of ya. :smile:

Yeah, I'm late with this, but better late then never.

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Congrats.
I wish I was here in the beginning.

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Also change the texture of the dock. Docks are rarely tile. -Facepunch
As I Lay Dying

I don't wish to agree with others. I wish for others to agree with the same things that I agree with. If you can make sense of that.

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I tried sniffing coke, but the ice cubes kept getting stuck in my nose.
http://www.dimebowl.com

Nickelplate said:
I don't wish to agree with others. I wish for others to agree with the same things that I agree with. If you can make sense of that.

Ahh, bought more paint I see. :razz:

Consider yourself very lucky. Snarkpit allows people like you to remain. Many wouldn't.

Welcome to my world. I remain here for much the same reasons.

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piss off the two of you....

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Stadric said:
Congrats.
I wish I was here in the beginning.

You didn't miss much.

Anyways, somebody hand me a shovel, this site needs to be finally laid to rest.

fishy said:
piss off the two of you....

ah ha.. The gangs all here. Another of the misfits speaketh.
/giggles

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<span style="color: white;">it'd better stay
<span style="color: lightblue;">i wouldn't have much else to do with my life if the pit were to died

a year and 20 some days for me
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Orph said:
Sorry Rumple.. Seems my sense of clarity is just as defective now, as it was five years back. The topic heading and content seemed OK to me.

Not your fault at all, my brain was in slow mode yessterday :smile:

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yahoo!! a big shout out to my old mapping comrades xD

I've been here for almost 3 years now I guess, and its been great. Wish I couldve been here 5 years ago.

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• My yr11 Economics teacher

I meant to announce this on the 22nd but forgot. Happy birthday,
old Snarky. Now, if only we could get Lep to show up for the
occasion.

Perhaps you can raise the dead and eradicate world hunger for the occasion too? :razz:

I miss lep.

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i concur
to all

I came here when the site was blue and white, and the forums, I believe, some EZBoard template. OP4 was at the height of its popularity at the time, and the classic style of its maps, their cleaner, more intricate rendering of HL1SP and HL1DM's themes, was the style to emulate, though that we were so impressed by an engine in retrospect so meager seems absurd now. At the time, HL2 was a rumor steeped in skepticism to the point of ridicule - Valve's own Duke Nukem Forever. We still had Worldcraft, r_speeds and three-day compiles. Moulding smooth-lit, flowing terrain on a pre-Q3 engine was an art, and the community - we could still call it the community, then, with its recognizable greats, collective advances in science, technique and stylistic trends - resounded at the sight of convincing natural scenes.

I was inspired by de_dust2 to create a map plastered with advertisements for my then-website. At the time, I thought maps were created with lines of code. I came here and got the tools. Save for the stumbling blocks of having to change WADs between maps and extremely slow compiles, Worldcraft was extremely intuitive and accessible. I still relish how mapping was then, without reliance on bump maps or model props - it put real pressure on the mapper, and in HL1's later years the texture artist, to choke detail out of a wheezing engine with a playerbase that, though we didn't like to admit it, was waning. Before HL2's announcement, the art of custom mapping - and I mean the art of it, not the process of knocking brushes together into a killbox or an iceworld and releasing it - had long ceased to be appreciated by the community at large (cue woes over the popularity of simplistic over intricate pieces). The complex map, with legitimate aesthetic quality and well-thought out layouts, and the fun map, with its stripped focus on unmitigated shoot-em-up gameplay, offering even little cover, briefly saw the promise of union towards HL1's zenith - notably in ts_dojo, RD's politically blasphemous funmaps, my own zevink_stoucs, and countless others.

Snarkpit itself was a recognized number one over the sparse, patently newbish havens for first timers and fun mappers that occasionally surfaced. Mapcore, along with the official mapping forums of Natural Selection, Firearms, and The Specialists, are all that comes to mind when I consider any genuine rivals to our reputation, activity, and closeness as a community. Our contests routinely saw our dingy engine render pieces that for five straight years after HL1's release continued to surpass the visuals of newer games. We saw the genesis of legends - ReNo, KFS, CJ, and DocRock, among others, became the best-known of those in the community. Orpheus, Leperous, Gollum, Brasso, Myrk, Monqui, myself, and plenty of others, though we had quieter reputations, all proactively contributed to the site long after many of us had put down the Hammer ourselves, and we created an incomparably involved and dedicated community.

We remained small even at the height of our popularity, I've heard, because many mappers were afraid to submit their work to our blunt style of criticism - which, in a community full of obsequiousness to mediocre artists, was invariably the most honest, extensive, and thought-out style of criticism to be found. Absolutely no other mapping community could boast a rotation of regulars who would download any map posted, run through it, screenshot dozens of rough patches, even playtest it with others, and then thoroughly summarize their experiences with the piece on the boards - all out of no real obligation and for absolutely no compensation outside of the satisfaction that comes with helping in another's artistic process.

Outside of mapping, we remain to this day a strong community of individuals - and, with Lep's absence and the disappointments of the HL2 engine, the site is beginning to become more about the individuals than the art that brought them together. We invite political and interpersonal drama where others, even online, would shy away from honest discussion and it's brutality. I'll be honest: I first came to this site when I was in the sixth grade, and I wouldn't hesitate to point to our well-implemented principles of bluntness as having had some influence on the development of my character. Few other people I meet value heartfelt exchange, with the possibility of brutality and melodrama it carries.

This post is ridiculously long. The chase: Snarkpit, may we never grow apart.

throughout the 2+ years i come here, i never saw you write like this. It was always a kind of enfant-terrible or witty remark. /me adjusts opinion. that was really well put, with the kind of emotion i feel too.

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That was beautiful cass...sniff

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Designer @ Haiku Interactive | ReNo-vation.net

Indeed.

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Some people are like slinkys...

They aren?t really good for anything, but you can't help but laugh when one tumbles down the stairs.

I agree about how mapping used to be an art, and was about the mappers skill at MAPPING, and not just putting props together with displacements.

Also that the HL2 engine was a big disappointment.

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http://www.dimebowl.com

I remember snarkpit in the begginning, I was here in one form or another, in a long lost time.

and I do belive that I had some major impact on SP over the years. even if it is only noticeable now by the actions of her members. many of whom I grew up with/ mentored/ assisted/ debated with/ reviews/ etc.

I hope this creation loses its change to stagnation and grows once again, maybe then lep will see that it needs him and he will return for good.

maybe

I've been here long enough to relize how great of a community the snarkpit really is. I wish I had been around in the early days, but I only know what's happened in about the last year. So far, I've been impressed by how this community holds together, and has some of the most productive discussions I have seen in a long time.

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I forgot if the joined date for me was changed when that first membership wipe happened. Even according to that it's been almost 4 years.

I got scolded when I said I was finishing my classic HL based maps before going to source, but I want to see those last bits of art to fruition. Every generation has its "noob-tools" (I'm looking at you, prefabs.) Haha.

I remember the old planet halflife, blue and white days...man. I was secretly always jealous of snarkpit and how popular it was.

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PixelGames

Congrats!

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pepper design

The strength of the turbulence is directly proportional to the temperature of your coffee.

congrats.

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My Pit

We need lives.

Lives... only 3 coins to go and I've got another one...

or did I miss something?

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BlisTer said:
throughout the 2+ years i come here, i never saw you write like this. It was always a kind of enfant-terrible or witty remark. /me adjusts opinion. that was really well put, with the kind of emotion i feel too.

Sadly, if this realization has only just occurred to you, you have inadvertently done Cassius a disservice. Judging by the Pm's I have received of late about my poor attitude and how "I" am doing this or that wrong, I hate to speak to favorably about people like Cass. I fear that some may get the wrong idea since I have been in such disfavor recently.

There are many kinds of respect. The most sought after is invariably the hardest to come by. There are some here, who still call me friend, no matter how badly I screw the pooch. These members will always have my most favored respect. Anyone who can still talk to me after some of the things I have said to them deserves this level of gratitude.

The same holds true for people of Cassius's caliber. He is one of the few here on my list of people who can do no wrong. No matter what they do, I cannot bring myself to think badly of them. The list isn't limitless, but it does have about 3 dozen names on it.

Fortunately for me, the only Pm's I receive now are from relatively new members who either do not know me, and/or my contributions. I can only assume that the oldtimers have either accepted that I am dumb and won't change or have accepted that I am not so bad that wringing my neck via a particularly evil PM will fix me to their liking.

Anyway, Some people here who seem determined to post nothing but negativity, are some of our most sacred members IMO.

/2 cents

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Hah, the thought of someone PMing you and saying you're a douche somehow amuses me :biggrin:

Orpheus said:
<DIV class=quote>
<DIV class=quotetitle>? quoting BlisTer</DIV>
<DIV class=quotetext>throughout the 2+ years i come here, i never saw you write like this. It was always a kind of enfant-terrible or witty remark. /me adjusts opinion. that was really well put, with the kind of emotion i feel too.

Sadly, if this realization has only just occurred to you, you have inadvertently done Cassius a disservice. </div></div>

i never thought bad of him. i just always thought he had a kind of "laisser faire, laisser aller" attitude, sometimes shouting an ad rem/to the point/witty remark. It's just that, in discussions about the scene, i never noticed how he felt about things. but maybe it's just me

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French Toast said:
Hah, the thought of someone PMing you and saying you're a douche somehow amuses me :biggrin:

Really? Try it sometime. I mean, try it from my side. Some of these people pull out all the stops when they conceive of their replies. They don't actually contain much in the way of wisdom. I mean, IF I followed their advice I'd not be any better off for it.

<DIV class=quote>
<DIV class=quotetitle>? quoting BlisTer</DIV>
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i never thought bad of him. i just always thought he had a kind of "laisser faire, laisser aller" attitude, sometimes shouting an ad rem/to the point/witty remark. It's just that, in discussions about the scene, i never noticed how he felt about things. but maybe it's just me

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When I say disservice, I didn't mean that you thought ill of him. What I meant is, subconsciously you put him into a category that he didn't deserve, or for lack of a better term, you inadvertently compared him to someone much less likable.

Its not a bad thing. We all do it on some level. Its natural to place people into preconceived molds until proven otherwise.

My "Mold" is asshole. In reality its Whole ass, and as everyone knows, being entirely ass isn't quite as bad. :wink:

Seriously, I receive Pm's from time to time asking me how I can defend so and so. My stock reply is "Because they deserve it" In many instances its a simple matter of not really knowing them.

This site is interwoven with Cassius wisdom. Sadly, I don't know how to search it out but I assure you its definitely there.
One thing you need to remember is, Cassius and I fought like siblings once. Notice how our camaraderie is now. I honestly think its because of our spats. NOT in spite of them.

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