I finally got first hand experience with a Wii and Wii Sports...

yikes

I can find 25 year old Intellivision sports games with deeper gameplay. If this is the future of gaming what a bleak future it is.

RedWood, the Unreal 3 Engine is far more demanding than the spiffied up Call of Duty 2 engine COD4 uses.

Yak, Wii Sports is a tech demo more than anything else. The other games that utilize the remote well are better examples.

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So i got Orange box for 360 at christmas, and I played through portal like a mofo. What incredible fun, easily one of my favourite games already.

Taking the time now to play through HL2 again so I can transition into Episodes 1 and 2.

Also renewing my Live membership for some hardcore TF2 action. What a spectacular bundle of games.

Deus Ex.

Holy crap this game is addictive.

That is all.

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Yak_Fighter said:
I finally got first hand experience with a Wii and Wii Sports...

yikes

I can find 25 year old Intellivision sports games with deeper gameplay. If this is the future of gaming what a bleak future it is.

I agree, when I first tried the game at a friends place I got bored of it very fast. As Crono says the game's probably mostly meant to show of the possibilities with the Wii and the remote.

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I'd like to think that the wii console is for "non gamers". I know alot of people will disagree with that, there are probley a few hardcore gamers out there using the wii, the fact is though, most wii owners are "non gamers". I suppose if you watch the adds for the wii on tv though you might have already picked this up.

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So Otzman, you picked up Cabal yet? Let me know your name if you're on the Jupiter server... it's hella fun really:)

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I'd like to think that the wii console is for "non gamers". I know alot of people will disagree with that, there are probley a few hardcore gamers out there using the wii, the fact is though, most wii owners are "non gamers". I suppose if you watch the adds for the wii on tv though you might have already picked this up.

I don't think it's for "non-gamers", but it's definitely more casual-friendly than ever. But why does Nintendo manage to still be the most innovative game console company while marketing towards a casual audience? If it were just for Sony and M$ we'd still navigate our game characters with a D-Pad.

After all Sony started it all with including a CD drive (nobody I know every really used, but hey, you could tell your hip friends you're just using it to play music). Then Lara Croft's boobs and Halo's uber-marketing campaign followed. You could say that the playstation and microsoft's highly unsympathetic rip-off consoles are the ultimate "casual" platforms, far above anything Nintendo ever produced.

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I suppose there's little argument against saying Nintendo is the most innovative console hardware developer, but innovative game maker? In the face of fifteen years of endlessly rehashed franchises, many of which peaked on the SNES? No way! :razz:

No! They have all the new games like... Zelda... and Metroid, Super Mario...

OK, you have a point. But especially some of the Mario titles, like Mario 64 which did 3D platforming like no game ever before or Mario Galaxy which has a portalesque quality to it are outstanding exceptions.

Sony and MS do not develop games at all (they buy and enslave game companies, yes, but compared to Nintendo, all they do is produce hardware).

And yes, I am a Nintendo fanboy.

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BlisTer said:
So Otzman, you picked up Cabal yet? Let me know your name if you're on the Jupiter server... it's hella fun really:)

Yep, started playing earlier today! I'm on the Jupiter server, and my characters name is Reginia (oh yes I had to pick a female character so that I could zoom in on various areas ).

I'm a Blader, and so far I'm on level 11. I'm just about to do the first promotion test. I gotta eat something first thoug (in real life).

Blister, you posted your nick in another thread, right? I'll have a look and add you next time I play (later tonight probably).

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I never understood Mario 64. I know its considered groundbreaking and revolutionary, but I thought it was terrible and played Pilotwings 64 a whole lot more. The platforming was never fun and it felt like I spent more time wranging with the camera than I did playing the game. I only had fun in the first few worlds and then the game just became painful. How did I miss its greatness by such a huge margin? (and I was still a bright eyed kid not this bitter husk of a man so don't say that!)

I don't know what everyone else saw in the game, which sucks, because clearly it is viewed as a legendary game, to the point where it probably had deep influences within large swaths of the game industry... which is probably why I dislike most games released today :/

I wasn't the biggest fan of Mario 64 when it came out, but as I look at it now, it actually is quite a good game. I don't think it's quite as good as the majority of people say it is, though.

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I liked it, especially after learning the side somersault.

No N64 game quite impressed me as much as Goldeneye, though. They packed so many ideas on a 16 MB (!) cartridge. If I don't count the HL mods, then no other game ever offered so many hours of gameplay without getting boring.

I never owned a console after the N64 so, again, I might be biased/ignorant towards newer consoles and games here. (Although I doubt there's much competition)

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We rented Cooking Mama: Cook-Off for the Wii at my friend's New Years Party. It's a fantastic party rental. Not a very deep game though.

Metroid, where to start, I think that game is terrible. Some chick in a space suit who can roll up into a ball.... I really hope for you guys sake you never ever buy, see, hear, touch, taste or even smell the Metroid Ds game, that game stresses me out when ever I see it or hear about it, its terrible. I dont even want talk about the single player for that game, seriously, and the multiplayer is so unbalanced, and when you play on wifi, most people quit if there about to loose, its impossible to get any experience.

Zelda is not to bad, some Mario games are ok i suppose, Goldeneye was a great game for the N64, took me so long to unlock all the campaign levels (Aztec, Egyptian omg) And all the fun glitches, I wish I had a gameshark :sad:

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Hell yeah, I was logged in on Cabal while I was at work, and I managed to sell 8 white socks for 10k each :dorky: !

Blister, have to gotten any nice presents from the socks? I'm not level 50 yet so I haven't got a transmuter and hence I cannot create any other socks. I'm starting to understand why people get all stuck in MMORPG games ... but ... it will never happen to me .. I think.

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I'm starting to understand why people get all stuck in MMORPG games ... but ... it will never happen to me .. I think.

Famous last words. :biggrin:

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The Last Stand

The Last Stand

Way too easy.

OtZman said:
Hell yeah, I was logged in on Cabal while I was at work, and I managed to sell 8 white socks for 10k each :dorky: !

Blister, have to gotten any nice presents from the socks? I'm not level 50 yet so I haven't got a transmuter and hence I cannot create any other socks. I'm starting to understand why people get all stuck in MMORPG games ... but ... it will never happen to me .. I think.

Always when you think it gets to be boring, you achieve something new that peaks your interest again.

I'm a level 50 Force Blader but i sell all my socks, you get better money from them than the presents. 10k is way too cheap though, at one point i was selling white socks for 100k, nowadays 60k. But mostly i have too many white socks to sell them in one go, so i make a few green socks and sell them for 230k. I'll be online tonight, i'll be on the lookout for ya... i'm NoxSlayer btw.

beat COD4, portal, episode 2, and crysis in the past week. All awesome games. Being home from college give me lots of free time :smile:

The Last Stand

Way too easy.

Kinda fun to play through though... ZOMBIES! meh yeah you're right. Once you get the rifle you pretty much can't lose.

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Anyone get the Barrett M82 at the last stage?

Last stage? I had all the weapons and no vacancy for new people by the fifth from last.

The chainsaw is NASTY. And all the ones that run right up to the wall don't actually damage it for a few seconds... long enough to reload any of the guns but the 357.

Half Life - Classic, I enjoyed it, even if I played it over a million times.

Half Life 2 - I love how you're given a freedom to interact with the world physic.

Contra (NES) - Hehe, still fun, I played it since when I was five year olds.

Medieval Total War - Who doesn't like taking over the continent through strategy, tactic, and brutal betrayal and wars? I enjoy grabbing my army of 20k mens and stomp every armies that dare get in my way.

Jedi Knight Jedi Academy - I enjoy the duel, I think I'll enjoy the massive jedi force combined with saber even more! I had fun playing singleplayer alone because I was given a freedom to slice the stormtroopers or the siths into pieces.

Sudden Strike Series - Probably one of my favorite RTT games of all time. Requires patience, strategy, and skills to complete certain objectives of the missions.

prototstar said:
Medieval Total War - Who doesn't like taking over the continent through strategy, tactic, and brutal betrayal and wars? I enjoy grabbing my army of 20k mens and stomp every armies that dare get in my way.

Amen (You mean Medieval2 right?). If you get bored of the same old Europe map, there are tons of free mods for M2TW with different maps, other factions, etc.

I liked the shotgun in The Last Stand, shooting 2 shells a second and watching the shots hit their faces. The gory sound effects too.

I got Unreal Tournament 2004 yesterday and Deus Ex today ordered from Amazon. I seem to have a habit of ordering more than 1 game at a time. UT 2004 seems alright but I think it only seems enjoyable right now because it's new to me (although I have the original UT and Unreal 2: The awakening). The vehicles seem to be the only real improvement.

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<DIV class=quotetext>Hell yeah, I was logged in on Cabal while I was at work, and I managed to sell 8 white socks for 10k each :dorky: !

Blister, have to gotten any nice presents from the socks? I'm not level 50 yet so I haven't got a transmuter and hence I cannot create any other socks. I'm starting to understand why people get all stuck in MMORPG games ... but ... it will never happen to me .. I think.

Always when you think it gets to be boring, you achieve something new that peaks your interest again.

I'm a level 50 Force Blader but i sell all my socks, you get better money from them than the presents. 10k is way too cheap though, at one point i was selling white socks for 100k, nowadays 60k. But mostly i have too many white socks to sell them in one go, so i make a few green socks and sell them for 230k. I'll be online tonight, i'll be on the lookout for ya... i'm NoxSlayer btw.

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Level 50, nice :smile: . I suppose I'm practically giving my socks away then :razz: , gotta start sell them for a little more then. I sold a map part, can't remember which one it was, you had to be level 75 to do use it or whatever, not really sure about what map parts are tbh. :razz: Anyway, I managed to sell it for 310k, and I got it out of one of the white socks. Still I might earn more just selling the socks for 60k each...

I've been experiencing pretty bad graphical errors from time to time. I posted a video on youtube in an attempt to get help lnky, read the comment for more info on that. Basically things looks very strange as you can see in the vid, but right now the game seems to be working again. Hopefully I'll get more new dvd-rom tomorrow so I can reinstall Windows as my old one's all broken. Might even buy new parts for my computer soon.
I'm so tired today I think I'll hit my bed right away, so no gaming for me tonight unfortunately. But I'll prolly play some this weekend, and I'll PM you my msn can we talk more there Blister, I'll log in now and see if you're online in Cabal. You're mostly on Jupiter, Channel 1, right?

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I've been playing Portal ... it's really fun and great and everything ... but it's way too easy and short. (Achievements and all)

Can someone explain the "Companion Cube" love to me? Before I played the game, I assumed, at the very least, the cube was predominantly in the game ... but you get it for a collective 2 to 5 minutes or so.

So, I don't understand how it's so loved when it's barely in the game.

Otz, you probably need to clean your graphics card. That's a type of artifacting (there are many, look here).

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Crono, I think the whole effect got spoiled because you expected so much of that cube. I knew just enough about the companion cube to be happy to finally see it, and to wonder what it actually did.

Anyway, I haven't been playing much AAA games lately. I've turned indie/casual instead. I've recently played An Untitled Story, a 2D exploration/action platformer. Pretty good game. Doukutsu, or Cave Story, is another excellent platformer. Knytt Stories, same story. Heh. I'm now playing Lyle in Cube Sector, a bit of an odd game but quite fun despite it's deliberately oldskool graphics and sound.

And every now and then I play Mono, Echoes and Warning Forever for my shooter kick.

Anyone else here who's playing indie games nowadays? What are your favorites?

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That isn't what happened. It wasn't like I had expectations and then they were dashed. I had no expectations, I had only heard of it and that people adored it.

Even if I knew nothing of the object before playing the game I would still see it as a rather insignificant thing. That's why I was asking.

Maybe I went through the game too fast?

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Crono said:
Otz, you probably need to clean your graphics card. That's a type of artifacting (there are many, look here).

Thanks Crono! The errors I'm experiencing look just like in some of the pics on that page.

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I dunno Crono. I guess different people just react different to the same situations then?

Which, I think, makes a game-designers job a lot more interesting/difficult. :smile:

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Companion cube was a funny joke during the game (if you hadn't heard about it before), especially given that the writers of Portal were the Old Man Murray people who are most remembered for making fun of the lameness of cratefests in every fps/custom map/etc.

Then of course the worthless 'gaming community' and the internet at large got a hold of it, killed it, buried it, pissed on its grave, dug it up and repeated it ad nauseam.

Don't laugh.

I finally got Quake 4 and am playing through it right now.

I read through all the old Quake 4 threads, and no one seemed to notice that the level design has a lot of similarities to the original Half-Life.

I mean, the Dispersal Facilities is very similar to Residual Proceeding, and the subsequent Recomposition Center is almost identical to the second part of Residual Proceeding (with the conveyor belts and traps).

See for yourself.

Was that an intentional homage to Half-Life, or was it an unintentional "borrowing"?

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At least two Half-Life community mappers (KFS and Ken20Banks) worked on Quake 4 as level designers. That probably had something to do with it, but also Raven is a pretty terrible developer, so if anything the similarities to HL1 and 2 were very intentional in a "HL did this we need to copy it" sort of way.

And it is not only the level design that is similar to HL, believe me. Plus the basic structure to the game is almost totally identical to another Raven FPS, Jedi Outcast.

Such a bad game :/

I wipped out Monkey Island 1 today. That's quality gaming right there.

So I reinstalled Windows (ugh!), and the problems in Cabal went away, but... Instead a whole pile of new problems appeared with THE NEWLY INSTALLED COPY OF WINDOWS. I will try Ubuntu out as soon as I have the time, and I hope it will replace Windows entirely in my life.

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Urban Dead

I think a few people here are familar with this browser MMORPG. I found out about it from a thread here.

Zombie Panic: Source
Way more fun than I thought it would be, I think it's fairly balanced, neither side has it easy. Somewhat stressful game.

Battlefield 2
More fun than I remember it being. I finally got the hang of flying the jets with a mouse, but damn there are some good pilots out there. On some servers I hop in a jet and I've got missile lock warnings every 3 seconds without ever even seeing the other plane.

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Yeah, that's why I only play BF2 on Infantry Only servers.

I recently gave Deus Ex a second chance. I didn't really like it when it was released and chalked up everyone else loving it to one of those things I just didn't get. I just finished it and boy was I missing out, since it was awesome. Course it's a much better rpg than a fps, which is probably why I didn't like it in the first place since I expected a fps with rpg elements instead of the other way around.

I mean, the Dispersal Facilities is very similar to Residual Proceeding, and the subsequent Recomposition Center is almost identical to the second part of Residual Proceeding (with the conveyor belts and traps).

See for yourself.

And then right after that is a huge copy of Blast Pit. I laughed so hard when the floor opened up after killing the boss, just like in HL.

Got Burnout Paradise (on X360) the other day, really great game :biggrin:

Also got Gears of War a while ago, haven't had a chance to play it much, but it seems to be good.

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I finished Deus Ex about 2 weeks ago. I thought the flexibility of the storyline was quite interesting. It's a pity you have to make a political decision at the end though.

You can get unlimited skill points in the Vandenberg Air Base mission with an exploit.

Also enter "Deus Ex" into the YouTube search, you'll find some funny videos there like messing with AI, gunther vs bot, hobo fun 1 (git back in yor cage!), Denton owns pathetic thug and Walton's brain crashes.

I've been playing Call of Duty 4. To an extent where if I walk through the house now and I can't find someone I frantically press 6 and ask if anyone has UAV available.

I've recently been playing Star Control 2: The Urquan Masters. It's an old game, and some of the graphics are rather primitive, but the game itself is rather fun, and its got a very good storyline.

Karate guys, boxes, pressure systems: Powder Game v4.5

Nothing note worthy have I recently played but, I am really looking forward to Fallout 3's releasing.

I did�get Warlords for Xmas for Civ 4. I always wanted to know how/why the barbarians whipped my ass so easily. With Warlords you can be the barbarians and they do whip ass. I never lose. Never even come close to losing. Now I wonder how/why I win playing against them. They are given so many advantages its incredible.

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